O/W Permit Calculations

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  1. HornRimmedRambis

    HornRimmedRambis Bobtail Member

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    Hi y'all,

    Just wondering - do you have a system for quickly calculating the cost of O/W permits? The company I work for is starting to haul heavier and heavier loads, so the regulations are going to get more complicated and our blanket calculations aren't going to work as well going forward.

    Is there a plug in and go Excel sheet or anything you use? If so, how did you build it out? We're pretty skeptical of online services that claim they can calculate that stuff for you. We'd like to have a system to expedite the process to streamline bidding. Any advice/help would be appreciated.

    Thanks!
     
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  3. nikmirbre

    nikmirbre Road Train Member

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    For the most part its just kinda something you know right off hand. If your speaking just Overweight loads then you gotta know what states charge per ton mile..... Im sure maybe someone has a system they use to quickly determine permit costs....
     
  4. nikmirbre

    nikmirbre Road Train Member

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    Of course Im just speaking of estimated costs when you see a load and its an OD load and quickly need to figure the costs out..... But generally speaking if the margin is that small and the costs of permits determines whether I take a load or not then I generally wouldn't take it anyways......
     
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  5. HornRimmedRambis

    HornRimmedRambis Bobtail Member

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    Yeah, this is something my boss is trying to get together since we're newer to the super OW/OD loads. We've got a trailer that can max out at 60,000#, but are looking to get into heavier stuff. Right now, with rates being what they are, the margin's on permits are starting to matter more (for us, at least). Generally we're calculating $150 per state on OW loads, but we're thinking that we'll need to get more specific if we're going to keep things afloat.
     
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  6. JDHIGGINS44

    JDHIGGINS44 Light Load Member

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    Oversize/Overweight Load Permits, Regulations & Fees By State Online That is a great site and relatively accurate. If permit calculations are getting that close then I think maybe you should rethink the rates you are working for. One thing to take into account is assuming a flat rate. For example in my world where we work everyday. 1 Mile move in Ohio might be $145 our cost and in PA a 1 mile move might be $40. But take that same machine and move it across the state of Ohio and it still costs $145. Move it across the state of PA and you're looking at $3-400.
     
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    nikmirbre Road Train Member

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    Some states are flat, some are tiered, some are ton/mile. We use West Chester Permit for many states and usually for multi state trips and I find their estimator tool to be accurate. When I cost something, I typically figure $100/state for ones we need a trip permit. It covers the permits and some overhead. If we already have an annual that covers the load I still figure something in for it, but less.
     
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  9. HornRimmedRambis

    HornRimmedRambis Bobtail Member

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    That wild fluctuation is why we're looking for accurate estimates on permit costs. It's a pretty big deal, like you said, even outside of the margins, if the cost is $145 vs $40. I know that it's a total pain in the ###, and I also think the company's being a little unreasonable to expect that something like that can be built out, but hey, this is what they're asking for. I really can't imagine making a spreadsheet that can plug and go estimates for states that run per mile over however many pounds, blanket rates, etc.

    We're based out of TX, but run pretty much anywhere that makes sense. We'll typically stay out of super remote areas, but sometimes bite the bullet and do it anyways.
     
  10. snowwy

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    It's hard to calculate when different states charge different rates. As mentioned above.
     
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