Off Duty PTI?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Meltom, Sep 15, 2011.

  1. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

    Jan 24, 2011
    So can you log your Pre Trip as Off Duty Time? I heard somewhere, and I forget right now, that only 5 states require you to log a PTI. Help me out and shed some light on this for me please.
  2. johnday

    johnday Road Train Member

    I don't think a state has any say so as far a pti, I thought it was federal. The logging, if you do a PTI, it's logged on line 4, you are doing work, then there goes your 10 or 34/36. A post trip could be flagged if it's 7.5 minutes or less, and be logged on line 3. Notice I said "FLAGGED".
    That's the way it was done at my last OTR company, and they never gigged me for it.
  3. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

    Sep 23, 2007
    Ask my GPS...
    The HOS rules are FEDERAL... adopted by the states so they can STICK IT TO YOU!

    Speaking of getting stuck by a local DOT... just do ANYTHING business or work related while off-duty, and they'll STICK IT TO YOU! PTIs.
  4. Scalemaster

    Scalemaster Heavy Load Member

    Mar 13, 2011
    These regulations are FEDERAL, they apply in ALL US States and territories.

    If you DO an inspection, that is ON-DUTY time. You must show that time. If it is less than 15 minutes, you draw the line, show city and state location, and the amount of time in the remarks section.

    Just because it is less than 15 minutes (or 7.5 minutes) does not mean the time goes away, or that you don't have to show it. You have to log ALL changes in duty status. You just have to show it differently.
    bullhaulerswife and dieselbear Thank this.
  5. Scalemaster

    Scalemaster Heavy Load Member

    Mar 13, 2011
    BTW, a pre-trip inspection is required.

    dieselbear Thanks this.
  6. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

    Apr 18, 2010
    A pretrip inspection is required and you can round off to 15 minutes and be okay. Many companies want you to flag a post trip inspection which includes a quick walk around looking for anything abnormal like a radiator boiling over. They only take a few minutes, hence flagging.

    Anything can happen while you're sleeping, so your pretrip should be the thorough inspection before hitting the road.
  7. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

    Jan 24, 2011
    Thanks for all the feedback, I appreciate it.
  8. bullhaulerswife

    bullhaulerswife Forum Leader/Admin Staff Member Administrator

    Jul 23, 2007
    Heck, my hubby does a walk around every time he stops. He had a load coming out of AR one time, 670 mile trip. Got into MO and was fueling, noticed oil on the front of the trailer. Yup rear seal going out. Conveniently there was a shop directly across the street from the TS. Cost was less than $300 to fix it. But imagine the cost had he not done a walk around and just jumped back on the road with the truck???
  9. PeterMartin

    PeterMartin Bobtail Member

    Sep 26, 2011
    Houston, Texas
    I have searched over the PTI but not able to clae the idea of the PTI can any body tell me the true meaning of it.
  10. Rat

    Rat Road Train Member

    Pre/post Trip Inspection. Something that must/should be done before and after operating a comercial motor vehicle.
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