"Out west"

See....there you go again.

A bit more experience for you. A "empty flatbed" is considered a sail, in a good crosswind. You obviosly haven't been in a good one yet.

And yes, I was a noob. Unlike you, I never took things personal. I took the advise from many an old fart, and went on.

 

There is no problem. You've got it mastered since you can read the signs.

 

some of those mountian passes are a pain in good weather, when you run them think about how brutal they are in winter and bad weather

macdonald pass is only a few miles from my house, and its an honest 8% grade on the east side,switchbacks included, and yet rarely will i go down it at its suggested speed of 25 mph loaded, summer i might go 20, winter maybe 10

the miles are better out west, and so is the scenery (hands down), but the rockies wont hesitate to kill ya even in the summer

look up 4th of july, lookout, rogers, snowqualmie, lolo, lost trail, wolf creek and homestake passes.
they look timid on the map, but believe you me they are anything but

and high winds with any empty skateboard are no fun at all

we aint tryint to run ya down cmoore, but your ####y attitude throws some of us off. questions are one thing but add in attitude and it becomes something else. we were all rookies at on point, we all know that. ask the questions you have and listen to what the old farts around here have to say. trust me you will learn something.

 

Yup..that would make it alright.

Of course, Wyoming might have something to say about the "High Wind Warning/Advisory" signs. Cause they sure don't offer a "complete" explaination to what it really means, on that same sign.

But they will explain it to you, while they write the ticket(s).

 

You guys ain't kiddin about those mountain passes out west. Been over most of em, Cabbage, Sherman, Parley Summit, Grapevine. Haven't been down many in Colorado but I always take them very seriously. Haven't been down Donner either but I hear it's one to give your complete respect to.

Came down most of them in third or fourth gear on the shoulder because I had a malfunctioning jake and I wasn't chancing it with those hills. Cabbage is one mean sob if you ain't doing what you're supposed to be doing. Sherman is a fun one too. Lots of jokers on the cb watching me crawl down but all I care about is getting through em and moving on.

Those aren't the places you want to get in a hurry for sure. But the west is best and the east is least for sure. Being out west makes you feel like a free human being and the east makes you feel like an enraged animal in many places. I'd rather drive LA than NY and NJ ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!

West Virginia and Tennessee have some mountain passes that you best respect as well. Hell, even NC has a pass or two that'll get ya if ya ain't careful. I hate WV though, it seems no matter the route, it takes forever when you got 40k+ in the box.

 

broncrider posted, " look up 4th of july, lookout, rogers, snowqualmie, lolo, lost trail, wolf creek and homestake passes.
they look timid on the map, but believe you me they are anything but"

I am "proud" to have driven a few of those before they were upgraded to four-lane Interstates. The old roads are now closed to truck traffic. I drove the new Donner, and it was a piece of cake compared to 4th of July and Snoqualmie before they were upgraded.

The historic Lincoln Highway, the first road across America (later U.S. Route 40 and now named Donner Pass Road), crosses Donner Pass. Interstate 80 was constructed through this area in 1964. While I-80 generally parallels the old route of US 40 through the Sierra Nevada, I-80 crosses the Sierra crest at the Euer Saddle, approximately two miles to the north of Donner Pass. Euer Saddle is also commonly called Donner Summit. Euer Saddle is slightly higher than the Donner Pass (7240 ft/2206 m), but it is much wider and has a slightly more gentle approach that aided construction to Interstate Highway standards, which does not allow for the switchbacks used by Donner Pass Road to approach the crest. The original concrete highway has been preserved as a scenic alternative to I-80.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donner_Pass

Wheels of Time published an essay by Jeff Howard. He wrote: "There was major construction all across the pass (Snoqualimie) that year (1973) as the old Hwy 10 was upgraded into Interstate 90."

 

Lol when I moved to south central WY back in 06...they told us to stay away from the mountains you go over in 80 going towards cheyenne. Having been over there a few times...I asked...what mountains? lol. I consider mountains to be I70 west of Denver.

But the west can be challenging. The windy, blowing wind/ snow crap you get in WY...mixed with skating rinks...makes it fun....take a camera to snap pics of wrecked trucks in the winter during storms. Frequent closures of 80 during storms...even when it doesnt seem like there is one. Last week, we got behind schedule becuase of bad weather on the eastern part of the state. Here I am on the western part....no clouds, warm weather...what bad weather? lol...it can change fast. Plus the 3 sisters by Evanston can be fun in the winter.

Colorado is just like that, only more mountanous/dangerous in the winter because of the ups and downs and tight curves. However, since I think lots of drivers avoid 70 like the plague...they take 80 up in WY.

 

LOL, I guess the 'trucks use low gears" would be the same as this guy comes flying off a mountain.

 

I'll give you an explaination. You make a statement with absolutely no knowledge of what you are talking about. I'll use the same type of reference that danc694u used. Try pulling a set of triples in hign wind or during a bad winter storm then get back to me. You'd be much better off to listen and learn than to make rash statements. It's your choice if you want to have a hard and frustrating career or try to be professional and do things right.