Overweight Ticket Oregon Split Axle Flatbed

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  1. AFC

    AFC Light Load Member

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    I am asking for advice as well as public announcement to flatbed drivers with split axles.
    I was loaded with railroad tie downs (lumber) in Klamath falls. Load was suppose to be heavy so I split my axles: my trailer can be tandem or split. I went to the pilot and weighed my truck before the scales. I didn’t weigh it as split axle but just regular (big mistake) my weight according to the cat scale was under 71k and my trailer was under 29k. I didn’t think twice and would never have even thought that the weight could be all on a single axle. I get to the scale and they said that my gross weight was 74k a difference of 3500 lbs compared to the cat scale and that my split trailer axles were 6k on the 4th axle and over 25k on the 5th axle. Ticket is $795.
    I told the DOT that I can close my axles and be legal and that I was trying to just work and not cheat the system. I showed him the cat scale, but he didn’t give me a break. Not sure if he didn’t have discretion in this matter or he just didn’t care. He did make me reweigh with my tandems closed before being allowed to leave the scale.
    Requesting Advice: is there a truckers lawyer for this that won’t cost more than the ticket?
    Would you pay it since it won’t affect your driving record?
    Would you bring it to the cat scales attention for any type of reprieve?

    Public Announcement: Even if you know your good on your trailer axle weight since it’s split, please make sure you individual axles are legal.
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  3. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member


    The good news is an overweight/over axle ticket is just money out of your pocket, not really a serious mark on your PSP.

    Call CAT scales, although if you "drove" differently than you "weighed" on the CAT scales you are SOL. CAT will help with tickets if you weighed with CAT and you are fined for more weight than CAT said you weighed. NO OFFICER is going to see a CAT scale and tear up a ticket. Officers work by their certified scales. Showing a CAT scale ticket to an officer is like telling your wife your girlfriend doesn't mind cooking your favorite meal. Even if it's true, that's not the point or the winning argument to make.

    I weighed in L.A. going to NC. Got legal, THEN I SLIDE MY 5TH WHEEL TO IMPROVE RIDE, and drove all the way to east side of Memphis, TN before I TN DOT discovered that sliding my 5th wheel slid and extra 1,500 pounds onto my trailer tandems. TN fines you and charges a fee for every pound. Live and learn.
     
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  4. Kyle G.

    Kyle G. Road Train Member

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    Wait a minute, are you sure it was the 5th axle that was allegedly overweight? As in the rear-most axle? That wouldn't make any sense.
     
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  5. AFC

    AFC Light Load Member

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    Yes. The 5th axle. The length of the load was around 45-48ft so I felt sure that having my axles spread was the right idea. I have a 53ft trailer.
     
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  6. LTL Bull

    LTL Bull Road Train Member

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    Are leveling valves working properly?
     
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  7. AFC

    AFC Light Load Member

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    Didn’t think of that. I will look into it.
     
  8. LTL Bull

    LTL Bull Road Train Member

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    Nothing else makes much sense
     
  9. northstarfire0693

    northstarfire0693 Heavy Load Member

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    I would look into it. Dosent seem right.
     
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  10. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    Why would you have it spread at that weight (thought 28k)? And no, no weigh (pi)6k on one and 25k on the other.

    Pic of load?
     
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  11. Kyle G.

    Kyle G. Road Train Member

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    Something isn't right here. Maybe the front axle wasn't all the way off the scale when they weighed the back axle? But that wouldn't explain why the front axle was so light. I don't know, but I think the leveling valve idea is a good place to start.
     
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