paper logging short stops

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  1. thelushlarry

    thelushlarry Road Train Member

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    I find it a joke that someone can check in get a dock back in unload and be gone in 5 minutes.
     
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  3. G.Anthony

    G.Anthony Road Train Member

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    I find it to be a joke they thought you were serious, Mr. Law Abiding Citizen........:biggrin_2559:

    As for me, when ever I would do multiple stops in a city, I would stay down on line 4, On Duty, Not Driving (and I would note, ALL city driving/deliveries). And NYC and the boro's would be the perfect place and time for such. God do I remember those days.

    That's the way it has been, and even if that has changed? I'd still do it today.

    Let a DOT shadow me. Just let'em..........:biggrin_25522:
     
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  4. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    When I ran dry van I would often have muliple stops in the same city. I logged, from the start of my 1st drop to the end of my last drop all on line 4, On Duty, Not Driving. My safety dept told me to do this and DOT never said anything when they looked at my logs. As far as a 6 minute stop, I might flag it. Probably not though.
     
  5. G.Anthony

    G.Anthony Road Train Member

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    I never flagged any of them, once I had arrived at the first stop, down to line 4 I'd go, then when I finished, since I was in the same city, then I'd go to line 3 and flag that as the same city I started at. We were good. Never any questions at any DOT house.
     
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  6. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    That's a different question than what the OP asked, but yes, that's the way to log multiple stops in the same jurisdiction.

    Question 6: How should multiple short stops in a town or city be recorded on a record of duty status?

    Guidance: All stops made in any one city, town, village or municipality may be computed as one. In such cases the sum of all stops should be shown on a continuous line as on-duty (not driving).The aggregate driving time between such stops should be entered on the record of duty status immediately following the on-duty (not driving) entry. The name of the city, town, village, or municipality, followed by the State abbreviation where all the stops took place, must appear in the “remarks” section of the record of duty status.

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/section/395.8?guidance
     
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  7. thelushlarry

    thelushlarry Road Train Member

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    I shall not tell a lie I do lie.
     
  8. G.Anthony

    G.Anthony Road Train Member

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    Well I don't lie, my box of Crayola's runs out of certain colors. Funny how the old timer DOT cops had a table in a corner of the scale house, and a box of Crayola's. Just by looking at the table top, one could see where a driver "went out of the lines", What a bunch of guys back then.
     
  9. Mr.X

    Mr.X Heavy Load Member

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    Ever heard of a key drop? How long does it take you to set a lift gate down and roll a pallet off on a pallet jack? I used to drive 502 mile route with 10-14 deliveries and was back to the yard within 14 hrs, and Im not the only one!
     
  10. EZ Money

    EZ Money Road Train Member

    I did key drops with a lift gate and electric pallet jack...under 5 minutes a drop.
    If iI had more than one in the same city it was logged all on duty not driving.
    Done it for years and DOT never questioned it.....I'm not flagging several stops and staying on driving....eats your 11 up fast!
     
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  11. truckon

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    There was A DOT in Wisconsin that would roll through the rest area and spot trucks, then pull them over up the road and check their log to make sure they logged the stop.

    A simple accident pulling out of a stop that you didn't log could land you in hot water fast. Best to log legal.

    If making multiple stops in one city you log on duty not driving the whole time.

    If you're over the road you flag it if the stop is under 7 minutes.
     
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