Paper Logs

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Side Box, Feb 27, 2013.

  1. UnnamedSickness

    UnnamedSickness Light Load Member

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    Log it as you drove it. Recap will help you keep your total (weekly) hours in check. Like has been mentioned, you can't run 110 miles in two hours if the speed limit is 55. It shows you were speeding. There are hills, traffic, slower truck speed limits, etc. So log a few miles per hour under. Don't forget to have your bill of lading number or commodity you are hauling on your log book. Good luck.
     
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  3. Side Box

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    So to sum it all up, Doing paper logs v e Logs is a pain in the ###!? makes me want to change my mind on who I am going to drive for,............. almost not sure which route to take!
     
  4. MNdriver

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    If he made significant violations, then yes, the could elevate it to a felony violation. Exception NOT the rule.

    Idaho, it's a misdemeanor charge.
    http://legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title67/T67CH29SECT67-2901A.htm


    A driver getting tagged at a scale for a error on his logs quickly gets written up for a false log.


    A Company and president doing it for several drivers is an entirely different class and would likely be charged out as a felony.
     
  5. carrkool

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    2007 DOT issue motor carrier book DOES show it requiring a post trip but the driver version shows pre trip. hense why I flag all of my stops with a PTI. doing that no matter what the cop reads i have logged a post and pre trip.
     
  6. carrkool

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    If you have not signed that days log than you can not be charged with a false log and if you are for some reason take pics of the log at the time the ticker is issued. than have it thrown out in court. intill you sign that log it is not a sworn document and can be corrected.....and that great tip came from an ohio dot inspector of all people
     
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  7. carrkool

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    And paper logs are not bad at all...takes getting use to some. but if you work the log you can run more miles in a day than you can ever do on elog.
     
  8. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    Yes, you can be charged with false logs without signing them.

    You are required to be current up to last change of duty. So when Mr. DOT pulls you over and says, "let me see your logs." he needs to at least draw your line to that point as you just went from Driving to On-duty. A change of duty.
     
  9. 379exhd

    379exhd Road Train Member

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    Its not a pita after you realize you get paid by the mile and you figure out how many miles that computer shorts you. Then again last night i wished i had an elog. Forgot how many hours drive time i had left so i fudged my log turns out i had 2.25 driving hours left. Anyway theyre not really a pita. Loads and unloads i fudge. Drive time soon as the truck stops log book gets done typically on highways ill average about 50-55 in a 65 because of the towns like other drivers have said. Yesterday was an exception speed limit was 75 across 90 in sd. Had the truck up at 75 so it was 110 miles in 90 minutes. Even then tho the average was still well below 75 which is what you want. And at least you dont have to worry about your truck shutting down when you get 10 miles from home bc you ran out of hours. Basically ill give up my pen and paper logs when they pry them from the cold dead fingers of my other hand.
     
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  10. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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  11. 379exhd

    379exhd Road Train Member

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    Not check it after you worked it? Hmmm...I own my own truck and my own trailer don't even turn the key till it's been pre tripped, and don't leave the truckstop to head home or go to bed before it's been post tripped. Every time that truck stops it gets a walk around and before I climb back in I walk around it. Yea you own it you should know what's wrong with it and what needs to be fixed and what you can get away with but you still need to look at your equipment just wait till you spring an oil leak on a cold night, don't walk around you truck, and you wake up freezing 4 hours later with a locked up motor, and batteries that are near dead. You'll start walking around your truck every time it stops and start checking it before you go to bed or go home for the weekend. Now I don't work 16 hours like rickg said I understand I fudge my loads and unloads and I do get tired by the time I finally do hit the sleeper but no matter how tired I am I'm going to look over my truck at the end of the day to make sure there's nothing that's going to hinder me from getting the job done in the morning. And think about it. Catch something at night before you go to bed it's a heck of a lot easier to get a service guy out there to get it fixed that night than costing yourself a few hours in the morning when you've got an appointment to be at. Don't know about you but it's $100/day I'm late with 90% of my brokers and the other 10% charge me $100/hour for missed appointments at the reciever. I'll be ###### if I'm going to lose $100/hour if I'm late because my truck broke down because I was too lazy to get out and check it. You're form of logging your drive time doesn't make much sense to me either what are you logging that 3/4 of an hour you gave yourself back? Looks a little suspicious when you go through a level 3 and at every stop you've got anywhere from 3/4 of an hour to 2 hours off duty or in the sleeper just saying.
     
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