PC and log violations
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Chebbydriver7195, Mar 20, 2019.
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An ELD has the same resolution, but it only records two decimal places of resolution, not the full 4 decimals it knows about.
That said it's still not 1-2 miles. It's 1.1 km at the equator. At the 38th parallel (runs about 1/2 way through Kansas) it's right at 0.8 km, which is 0.498 miles (I.e the 1/2 mile he claimed)
But all that is irrelevant anyway. The ELD is not allowed to get movement data from the GPS. It's only allowed from the ECM. It knows about the move and there will be a report of "Miles without hours" or whatever that company calls it to shows the movement.
Here is a primer about resolution if you want...
Geographic Coordinates In Decimal Degrees - Precision & Accuracy
Decimal degrees - Wikipedia
And the text from 395 that specified 2 decimal places.
7.31. Latitude
Description: An angular distance in degrees north and south of the equator.
Purpose: In combination with the variable “Longitude”, this parameter stamps records requiring a position attribute with a reference point on the face of the earth.
Source: ELD's position measurement.
Used in: ELD events; ELD outputs.
Data Type: Latitude and Longitude must be automatically captured by the ELD.
Data Range: X, M, E or −90.00 to 90.00 in decimal degrees (two decimal point resolution) in records using conventional positioning precision; −90.0 to 90.0 in decimal degrees (single decimal point resolution) in records using reduced positioning precision when allowed; latitudes north of the equator must be specified by the absence of a minus sign (−) preceding the digits designating degrees; latitudes south of the Equator must be designated by a minus sign (−) preceding the digits designating degrees.
Data Length: 1, or 3 to 6 characters.
Data Format: <C> or First character: [<'-'> or <{blank}>]; then [<C> or <CC>]; then <'.'>; then [<C> or <CC>].
Disposition: Mandatory.
Examples: [X], [M], [E], [−15.68], [38.89], [5.07], [−6.11], [−15.7], [38.9], [5.1], [−6.1].
7.33. Longitude
Description: An angular distance in degrees measured on a circle of reference with respect to the zero (or prime) meridian; The prime meridian runs through Greenwich, England.
Purpose: In combination with the variable “Latitude”, this parameter stamps records requiring a position attribute with a reference point on the face of the earth.
Source: ELD's position measurement.
Used in: ELD events; ELD outputs.
Data Type: Latitude and Longitude must be automatically captured by the ELD.
Data Range: X, M, E or −179.99 to 180.00 in decimal degrees (two decimal point resolution) in records using conventional positioning precision; −179.9 to 180.0 in decimal degrees (single decimal point resolution) in records using reduced positioning precision when allowed; longitudes east of the prime meridian must be specified by the absence of a minus sign (−) preceding the digits designating degrees of longitude; longitudes west of the prime meridian must be designated by minus sign (−) preceding the digits designating degrees.
Data Length: 1, or 3 to 7 characters.
Data Format: <C> or First character: [<`-'> or <{blank}>]; then [<C>, <CC> or <CCC>]; then <`.'>; then [<C> or <CC>].
Disposition: Mandatory.
Examples: [X], [M], [E], [−157.81], [−77.03], [9.05], [−0.15], [−157.8], [−77.0], [9.1], [−0.2]. -
Talking about overthinking it, I wonder how many truckers would be able to grasp those concepts(see preceding post), lol.
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Thing is, how can one exploit the laws to ones advantage if one does not know the laws?Tombstone69 Thanks this. -
Absolutely, the laws are being made to exploit hard working people that don't have the time, energy, or knowledge to keep up with or figure out, or for that matter, fight the unfair and oppressive laws put down to control and exploit the people that are working hard within the industry. That's why I praise forums like this that help explain things in plain English.Thank you, TTR.
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Off duty-pc to safe haven parking.
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I’ve always used line 3, and commented Safe Haven. Never had an issue with company or any DOT that happen to see it.
The only time I was questioned about it. I’d left the interstate with 4 hours to drive 99 miles. It took 6, and I drove 140 miles. This was when 5 was closed during the fires.
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I have been on e logs 5 + years.
I don't go over hours very often but I don't worry about it when it happens either.
The most common log 'violation' I get nowadays is when the peoplenet
fails to register my 30 minute break as such. Happens every few weeks.
Do I stop and take another 30 minute break when that happens ? Hell no.
And no law officer or inspector has ever asked to see my logs. Not once since I started driving.
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