PC - somewhere between use and abuse

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by TallJoe, Dec 26, 2019.

  1. Opus

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    Here's another issue......
    I live in rural GA. I get loads home very rarely (maybe twice last year), but I always have a reload here where I live. Therefore, I'm usually deadheading out of Atlanta or Macon (if I'm lucky), BUT, when I reload, I do it here.....
    SO, technically, by deadheading home I'm advancing to my next load, albeit 3 or 4 days in the future.

    What do ya'll think about that?
     
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    I believe your good to use PC, provided you are not already dispatched, or somehow committed to that next load.
     
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    PC is good as long you are not advancing the load to the next delivery.

    From my POV this is just another item the FMCSA manages to screw it up. And for what? What a mess.

    I remember a sign in CO no food or services next 76 miles. Check fuel tank. They mean NO food or services next 76 miles.
     
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    The real question is how they are going to look at PC when you use it when your on duty hours: 11/14/70 would otherwise expire. Assuming that the PC was indeed only personal.
     
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    What does the 11/14/70 have to do with pc? The whole point of pc is it's outside of hos.
     
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    This guy works for the DOT maybe he will give some insight.... @Scalemaster
     
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    Does taking PC immediately after your 11/14 expire look the same as taking it after the otherwise required 8 or 10 hour rest, especially when it is not 5-10 minutes but 1-2 hours? You are actually driving CMV for more than 11 or 14 hours limits (let's ignore 70 limit for now). I could not find it anywhere in the FMCSA site. I am a little afraid that some officials would object.
     
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    Again, so? If it's pc it's pc and outside hos. If it's not valid then whatever hos is broken, hos is broken.
     
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    Many times its expired at the shipper or reciever staying there all day and half the night and unloaded the next day. The first thing you want is fuel, food and rest. Not at the shipper or reciever. You have to transport somewhere where you have a chance to get that lawful parking and take care of the truck and yourself.

    In the past I used to put her up at a local large shopping mall, one of those old big time Simons properties in the far corner with one or two others. Everything except fuel is at the mall. (Food etc) after a rest we move on. Never a problem.
     
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    If you run out your 11/14/70 at a shipper, you are legal using pc to get to a safe place to park. You are driving off duty and hos are not involved. The way I see it anyway.