Personal Conveyance to go home
Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by RunningAces, Mar 3, 2019.
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Unladen means empty, or bobtail. From what I understand, I spent 2 hrs arguing with local DOT officers in Pa. got shutdown. Had to go to court to get my $500 and falsifying log ticket removed. Lol . It’s the principle of it.
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They revised the guidence, the reasonable clause is out but still ... here is from the guidence q&a
May a driver, who drops his or her last load at a receiver’s facility use personal conveyance to return to their normal work location (i.e. home or terminal?)
No. Returning home or to the terminal from a dispatched trip is a continuation of the trip, and therefore cannot be considered personal conveyance.
Remember these are guidence, and the states don't have to abide by them. They have the final say on what is pic and what isn't.roshea and Rideandrepair Thank this. -
More misinformation now than ever, sure to change some more as they keep putting band aids, and splitting hairs. Cops are trying to figure out ways of making easy revenue now, Too much crap, I’m all for safety, not too keen on abusive Law Enforcers
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If you know something I don't know on this and actually have it in written form I would be most interested in looking at it or a link. -
Where to start. So many well intentioned opinions... Just google “ fmcsa personal conveyance”.
Example:
“A driver may record time operating a CMV for personal conveyance as off-duty only when the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work by the motor carrier. The CMV may be used for personal conveyance even if it is laden, since the load is not being transported for the commercial benefit of the motor carrier at that time”
Can a loaded vehicle be used as personal conveyance?
Yes. Determining personal conveyance is based on the nature of the movement, not whether the vehicle is laden.deathB4decaf Thanks this. -
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This is a weird scenario outlined in the guidance.
It clearly says you can use PC during your 10 or 34 and it is off duty but then it says you are subject to being stopped and inspected and that time would be on duty.
So you could be halfway through your 34 at a truck stop and decide to drive down the road to go eat at restaurant or pick up some things at a wal mart and you get pulled over and inspected and bam you have to restart your 34 all over again because they just made you on duty.
There are a bunch of things that don’t make a ton of sense in the DOT laws but the PC stuff has to be some of the goofiest with the vague wording and gotchas.Attached Files:
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