Placards

Thank you for correcting my obvious spelling error... LOL I didn't re-read it before posting.

 

BS, ask once if I had a spare; Dot guy wanted one replaced due to old age. Pulled my pile out to find the one I needed right in front of him, never said a thing.

 

I have a driver who got a violation because of a placard not being legal, the comment on the paper work was this "should carry extra placards".

When I was hauling hazmat, I always asked for three more than I needed and had a pile of them when I got off the road, I think I had a box full of them. When I was inspected, which was a lot, I would have two extras sitting on the passenger seat with the paper work. Never had an officer ever say a thing.

 

My Pappy said he would put a foot in the cab corner and pull with both hands...you didn't parallel park!

 

In all my hazmat training classes over last ten years I was instructed that it is illegal to carry placards in the vehicle which are not specifically for your current load (there is an exception for the multi-placard displays). The reason being is if the vehicle is involved in an accident the only placards on the scene will be for the load. I believe if a DOT enforcer finds those "saved" placards, you will be cited for an improperly placarded load.

 

Whoever loads you is responsible for correct documents, packaging, and labeling. This includes all required placards. Never, never leave the facility where you are loaded without correct placards applied to your vehicle.

 

I keep them if I can get them off without destroying them, Bottomline if you take the load without it being properly ID'd it will end up being your responsibility. If it is not properly marked I will not back under the load till it is.

 

Update. I've been looking for the DOT-PHMSA legal definition of "carrying" vs "displaying".
I remember reading about this exact topic years ago, and I came away from it remembering that I could get a citation for having an assortment. It may have been an enforcement "policy" from a particular state I was running through.
Everyone should carry "replacement" placards.
Our Hazmat Dept is looking into it to see if there is some legal precedence, interpretation, or policy.

 

OMG what a bunch of misinformation.

I asked MSP carrier enforcement about this Friday and the officer said there is no law, regulation or concern on the issue of carrying extra placards.

I referenced this thread when talking to the officer, and it was explained to me what their protocols are.

If there is an accident, they don't care what they find on the ground if it came out of the cab, they care what is on the paper work and what is stuck or selected on the truck/trailer that guides them.

These people are not stupid, they've gone through all of this several times and to think that there would be an issue with extras is just amazing.



The shipper is the only one who is responsible for placards, ALWAYS. Never accept a load without the shipper giving them to you, even if you have a pile of them.