Please Explain This To Me

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by BookingYou19, Sep 25, 2013.

  1. BookingYou19

    BookingYou19 Light Load Member

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    There shouldnt be many circumstances beyond your control. The fact remains, you want money for waitnig but dont want to pay up for being late or us doing etra work to accomodate you. And it goes both ways bud, your "innovative" ways to charge back $500 to a custy? You say that sales is trying to reinvent your wheel and "expertise" what are you doing trying to tell brokers how do run their business in their expertise? Again it seems like you want things to go 2 ways, each benefitting your siude.
     
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  3. BookingYou19

    BookingYou19 Light Load Member

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    Not true. Once you book a load you still need to service it. And yes we make X. There is also an equation for what a carrier makes. NUmber of days factors in. I dont know how your brokerage is run, but we see loads from booking to payout. And of course we are partners with carriers. I have many carriers i am partners with, they do me solids and take loads for less than they should, I repay them by throwing them extra scratch on loads that have room.
     
  4. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    I have a question for you. Your percentage off the top, whatever it is, what does that cover for amount of work you are going to do (setting appointments, finding carrier), and when you have to do some extra work(pick up a phone for a second time, oh the labor), where do you collect more money from? Charge the shipper more or take it out of the carrier's pay? If you have to do less work for your percentage, do you give the shipper a discount? or do you give the carrier some extra out of your cut?

    This is why I say you win some you loose some.

    If you think trucks are just raking in money then perhaps you should buy some of your own. Make sure you get nice equipment in order to look good to your customers.
     
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  5. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    The hypocrisy, or rather greed here, is on your part expecting a kick back because a carrier delivers a day earlier. The carrier stands to lose a day's revenue from losing out a day. You stand to lose getting the POD a day later. Carrier is taking on all the risk, doing the work, and has all the expenses here. Are you unhappy with your cut so you have to nickel and dime?
     
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  6. BookingYou19

    BookingYou19 Light Load Member

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    I know some drivers are raking it in. I dont want to be a driver, I have too much energy. And no it isnt back breaking labor, but it is exausitng, and it isnt 1 or 2 loads. It is 50 loads per day with different trans times, commodities, value, importance, drivers, dispatchers, account managers, sourcing mangers, customers, shippers, shall I keep going? Different personalitites, ethnicities, on both drivers and dispatchers. While you have to hold the wheel and do what your dispatch tells you to.... Brutal. We cant charge the shipper or the customer half of the time so it comes out of our pockets to pay a lot of times. I have an idea. I will pay you any rate you want if we split the losses I incur on loads every day? Sound fair? Oh yeah, you dont realize we lose money on loads all of the time. How would I take it out of the carriers pay? Perhaps some details to support would help.
     
  7. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    bookingyou, if a carrier is late, you have every right to dock the rate, with the lone exception to this being the shower taking so long to load the truck that its not reasonably possible to arrive on time at the delivery point. I expected every rate confirmation to have both detention and late arrivals fines, clearly defined. or, if it's a broker I've got an established working relationship with, a verbal gentleman's agreement is fine. as far as stops being removed, Ofcourse you want a rate reduction. I'd have no issue with that, just as I'd expect you to have no issue with me expecting the rate to go up if stops are added. as far as a rate reduction for getting a load delivered early, that is really going to be on a case by case basis, 98 percent of the time I've already got my next load booked so it's not going to affect me by getting it unloaded early. but in a hypothetical example of getting unloaded earlier, allowing me to reload earlier, I would be willing to negotiate a reduction in rate.
     
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  8. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    To clarify the "partner". We don't share in the carriers profit(or loss). What you suggest is that they should "share" in their profit.
    And yes you need to service the load start to finish,but you seem to think that any additional profit the carrier should"share"with you.
     
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  9. BookingYou19

    BookingYou19 Light Load Member

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    LOL i'll give you credit, it takes brass to say the hypocrisy is on this side. How is the carrier taking all the risk? They get paid regardless on every single load, i have had zero carriers take a load for free, so dont tell me the risk is on them, we lose money on loads all the time. Again, we have lost sight of the original question. This wasnt a bash on carriers post. It was to inquire as to why certain things go one way but not the other. It isnt nickel and diming to use good business sense. If I can remove a full day of time for you, what can you do for me? Just like if a load needs to be somewhere quick and needs a team, why do we pay extra? It is the same amount of miles! Why are you nickel and diming us?
     
  10. BookingYou19

    BookingYou19 Light Load Member

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    Awesome! Exactly the feedback I was looking for, thank you. Of course I expect to pay out more for added work, added days etc, I was only looking for a response to the opposite events occuring, Thanks again. Although you did give me a double take when it said the lone exception should be for a long shower. I figured your auto correct kicked in.
     
  11. BookingYou19

    BookingYou19 Light Load Member

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    Not at all, I dont think I should share in their profit. But if they have to do extra work, they are reimbursed, if I do extra work, it should go to the carrier? Doesnt make sense.
     
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