Please help me understand being chronically overweight

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Audiomaker, May 21, 2016.

  1. Audiomaker

    Audiomaker Light Load Member

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    I should clarify that I didn't start this thread to whine.

    In concert with trying to become knowledgeable about the rules, I am also trying to figure out what kind of trailer I should spend the last remaining money I have in the world on?

    This is what has led me to this narrow grey area between what obviously needs, or should have a permit, and what just seems like nitpicking or being too close to the line for what seems like no good reason.

    From the standpoint of the uninitiated, the thought that adding an axle means I have to balance with how much fuel I can carry, in this state, but not in that state, for this or that kind of load, are considerations that further complicate an already stressful decision.

    When I got here, I was more of the mind that trailer choice had a lot more to do with budget and how much one is willing to invest in their own future.
    You know... "Oh... I'll get the 4 axle one even though it cost more, but I'll be able to haul more weight".
    What I find out is that you invest in the 4 axle...or even 2 axle spread SD just to try to give yourself an edge, that now you can't backhaul loads that would be just fine on the less expensive trailer.
    ...and for what? 3 or 4 thousand pounds?
    Then you find out your calculator is worthless because loads aren't even advertised at their actual weight, so now what? Buy the 4 axle but have to call every single load that would put me over if it was correct just hoping to find the one that is actually 45k when it says 48k? Ugh.

    Or yeah, go ahead and get the more expensive trailer but it's only good if you don't have to cross 14 of the 50 states with it?

    I'm sure it all makes sense once you're in it, but that is an honest representation of what it feels like for someone who's had a relatively bumpy life and now just wants to drive his truck in peace... choosing the loads that fit his equipment and schedule.

    I will get a handle on it all, and my hat is off to you guys who take these endless variables in stride as part of your daily profession.
     
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  3. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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    Also with the different weight limits that vary per state. Some of the extra weight permits only allow you to run on the state highways, not on the interstate.
    Most of the extra axle trailers are used to run heavy equipment/loads and Oversize because they ride lower to the ground.
    I have a friend with a 45' triaxle step deck with a beavertail and ramps. He averaged 3pm last year. All miles.
    Ramps can get you a lot of loads that pay better.
     
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  4. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    Then throw in California with KPRA restrictions, and it gets even more fun.

    I disagree that most of the heavy loads are on lower trailers. The standard Maxi configuration (triaxle with a rear tag) simply hauls more crushed cars, more bundles of cardboard, more rebar, etc. For commodities paid by the ton, a Maxi trailer can pay off handsomely. It is a "Pacific Northwest are surrounding areas" only thing, however.
     
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  5. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Now, I hate to toss a wrench into the wheels that finally got rolling well enough here.

    There is three kinds of trucks I do wanna take a moment to mention.

    1- Turnpike Doubles. You will find them in Ohio, NY Thruways, not sure about Indiana anymore. But most certainly NY. Those things were two 48's on ford9000's with the 400 I think they were. Ran well enough. Weights" My cosndervative estimate is 80 for the first cab and trailer and then throw in about 25 ton for the second. Call it 65 ton. I will have to break out the algebre weight scales etc etc etc and hurt myself trying to verify that.

    The second is a B train for Michigan Those things are a full trailer on 5th wheel and a second trailer with a triple axle on the first trailer's 5th wheel. Weights approach 150 ton if not actually.. er 160+ if the scales were closed. I made it my life not to interfere with the B trains in Michigan but so many people have been stupid around them and died or maimed beyond being useful citizen anymore.

    Third is Rocky Mountain double. I rolled with these in the area of Sheridan WY from Montana west from time to time during two winters, and found them to be really good comparison to the Michigan B trains if not actually BETTER on split ice in those days. Weights? Well I don't know because in that part of the rockies one weight is too much for another part.
     
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