Please help. Need advice with ongoing truck load issue

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  1. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    If indeed this was what the broker wanted, then, to put it mildly, that broker is a swindler.

    I am also of a kind who would just deliver it, get the BOL signed and move onto a next load. I'd remember the load and the broker though.
     
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    Im just reading through this quickly, but it seems that everyone is forgetting 2 aspects. One even if he had a contract from the broker to go that route in writing, which im didn't see mentioned that it was in writing, the broker can not force him to do something that could be considered illegal.
    and 2 - even though he got the load from a broker, ultimately the load belongs to either the shipper or the consignee. So if the broker doesn't want to pay for everything, that call the consignee and go around the broker. you have the legal right to bypass the broker once the broker has voided the contract, and by not paying due charges, he has voided. the rate con protect us as well as them, you just need to know how to use it.
    BUT you it helps a lot if you can get the finale rate con BEFORE you deliver. don't let the broker tell you that he will get it to you, he never will.
     
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    No offense but I would suggest a complete reading of a thread prior to making a post.

    It was mentioned SEVERAL TIMES that the ALTERNATE ROUTE was IN FACT SPECIFIED IN WRITING.
     
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    ok, as i said i didn't read the whole thing, but STILL, a broker, carrier, NO ONE can force you to do something that is illegal, or not paying for the miles. by giving them the "ALT Route" the broker wanted him to go around the station, that could very easily be considered ILLEGAL and therefor void the contract. Even still You still have the right to go back to customer and bypass the broker if the broker is being an ### and doesn't want to pay for due services and FEES.
     
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    Seems to me the op has different stories about the load.From the beginning he said it was refused for discolor when it seems all party's knew about a bug problem.then he posted the broker didn't ask for him to do anything illegal then he says he did ask him to go around. You live and learn but if you knew about a bug problem I think the thing to do was get all questions answered before moving I have no knowledge of California ag stations but I pull a step and don't go to California.i do have some knowledge of Florida ag stations and I'm not taking a load of bugs down there to deal with a problem there the broker had better make different arrangements or it's going back to shipper.As far as going around I don't know about California but Florida you can't go around there an ag station at every entry that is a legal truck route.if your on a legal truck route your not illegal
     
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    I thought about it a little, out of boredom, as my truck is under repairs and I am not in the mood for lawn mowing today...
    who knows maybe thanks to the OP a biological disaster was prevented. Let's salute to him for that.
    Salute! Salute!
     
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    I prefer to take that position. Anything else is not going to work very well.

    I have gotten that empty reefer into some of the damnedst places nature have to offer to load. I remember a nursery very clearly off Fallston Maryland, leave the interstate, leave the US 1 route, leave the 2 lane state road and progress through two or three smaller and smaller roads into the woods where they were. mashing bushes and nudging trees to load. I don't know about you but blue beacon was the first to attack that truck coming out. It was a late spring day into early summer.
     
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    Not sure where some on here think that by a broker telling you to take a certain route is illegal?unless he is taking you off the truck route.Dont think there says anywhere in the dot manual you are required to take the shortest are most direct route.
     
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    This in itself is not illegal. It only raises suspicions and implies something fishy. So if the op listened and did not think much just delivered the infested corn, then got paid, nothing illegal on his part could be proven. Don't ask, don't tell scenario.
     
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    Well you could be right I don't know.But it seems both party's knew about a bug problem it could have been the broker had a fumigation company close to the other inspection station he had an account with that did it cheaper too.again I think it falls back on the op he should have ask why the broker routed him that way instead of taking it on himself to go a different way.If a broker is paying you he is your customer if he's paying you to do it as he requested that's how you keep your customer happy.as long as I'm legal that's what I'm doing.i pulled produce years ago but if a broker sent me to a certain ice house for top ice that's where I went even if it was out of the way even if I knew one closer I would mention it to him but ifhe wanted a certain one ok it's his dime
     
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