Please Help!!!

Discussion in 'Motor Carrier Questions - The Inside Scoop' started by Wannabeatrucker, Mar 21, 2008.

  1. Scarecrow03

    Scarecrow03 Road Train Member

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    Wannabe, Aftershock's remarks to you were not meant to just discourage you or pick you apart. I understand what you are saying, but there is a very valid reason that some of these companies are continuously placed on the bad company list. I admire your determination, and I'm certain that there's no company out there that could dish out anything that you couldn't take. The point is, why take it if you don't have to? Your options might grow exponentially if you get that suspension expunged from your record. If that's what happens, why not seek out one of the companies that has a reputation for keeping their drivers happy. Just maybe you would remove the possibility of frustration that some companies are notorious for providing their drivers.

    Are there drivers at some of these so-called bad companies that are happy? I'm sure there are. A company as large as Swift has got to have a few happy drivers. But I still wouldn't work for one of these companies that have a bad reputation.
     
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  3. Wannabeatrucker

    Wannabeatrucker Light Load Member

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    Thank you scarecrow. It's not what aftershock said, it's the way he said it that had me upset. See, like you, you communicated effectively and with tact. I would never be "blunt" like that with someone that I do not personally know. I understand and respect what all of you guys have to say and what you do. Just like the military you guys play an important part not just to this countries economy but the world's cause american trucks don't just move america, they drive the economy that drives the world. My problem with what aftershock said is the way he said it. When you have someone looking for help you don't take their face and shove them in the mud and call them all kinds of fool. And to me, that is what aftershock did. I do not appreciate being labeled basically ignorant. Yes I may be a wannabe and eventually a newbie, but that does not give nor will I allow anyone the right to patronize me or make me feel any less than what I am capable of. I really appreciate this forum because it is very informative. But when someone asks a question for help the type of response that aftershock gave is not warranted, I did not speak to him in that tone he just jumped right in. He does not know me personally. He does not know my capabilities, and resources. All I did was simply ask a question. And everyone else responded very nicely except him. My philosophy is treat people the way you want to be treated. Every person that responded to my post I thanked them for their input. Because that is the type of person I am. But when you call my intelligence into question then we have problems. So in essence, if he had something to say, he should have left off all of the ignorant comments and used a little bit more tact. When you post in a public forum you are open to all kinds of responses, I know that, but if you dish it out, be prepared to take it as well. I am sorry if I upset anyone else, or if I even upset aftershock, but I stand by what I said. It has been a dream of mine since I was 5 to be an OTR driver. I have the work ethic, customer service experience, and people skills to succeed. I also love to drive, and the alone time. It's theraputic to me. So, in my view an experience is what you make it. To me yes, England, Swift etc. may be bad companies, but to someone who just would like to get out there and start SOMEWHERE and who has limited options, they are still the industry, and if they are willing to take me when no one else will, then so be it. I will do as told until I am able to be accepted at a decent company. I am not desperate, nor am I foolish. I plan every detail out before I do something, so if I do go with england or swift, I will ensure that my 6 is covered before I leave for any sort of training. I have read the horror stories and believe me, I will ensure they do not happen to me. At the end of the day I have the option of leaving and going home. I'm resilient enough to bounce back. But I just want to be a driver now. So I need to get in where I fit in... so sorry if I upset anyone and I do apologize aftershock, but remember it's also how you speak that is perceived as good or bad, whether it's spoken or typed.
     
  4. Wannabeatrucker

    Wannabeatrucker Light Load Member

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    oh and scarecrow I like where your location is... "in your head"

    HILARIOUS!!!
    wISH i'D THOUGHT OF IT.:biggrin_25514:
     
  5. AfterShock

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    Be careful, Scarecrow --- your post could be construed as borderline negative. And trying to explain my good intentions could get you labeled "jaded" and "bitter". :biggrin_25523:

    Once again, I have a wannabee claiming I've said things I've never said, and doing things I haven't done -- to prove a point that's pointless. All the while claiming to have read my other posts where I've explained myself 'till I'm blue in the face.

    When I ask for references to the false claims, I'm ignored -- as the rant continues about MY "negativity". Fact is, I have NOT made ANY negative comments about ANY other Big truck truckin' company besides C.R. England. But that seems to be unimportant. Truth is, Wannabee WANTS to paint me in a different light to justify his attitude while claiming to have an "open mind" -- because I haven't told him what he WANTS to hear.

    I'm not into sugar-coating what this industry can be. I consider that a dis-service. And from my years of experience as a driver trainer, I've come to recognize attitudes I don't want to release to the open roads.

    I'm SUGGESTING that the attitude I'm reading is the type that will do what it takes to graduate from Big truck truck driving training, only to do it THEIR way -- which can result in a Big truck truck driver who does 70 MPH in construction zones and/or rides the donkey of the Big truck in front of them in those areas.
    Think about it folks, where do they "learn" THAT from? I'd venture to say they DIDN'T learn it at all -- it comes from within. They're the type who'll only "listen" long enough to get through training and then the REAL "them" comes out. They think they know more than the driver trainers with tons of experience trying to educate them. But the driver trainers are considered just a necessary evil they have to put up with to get into a Big truck of their own. If they won't listen to good advice here, and consider good advice to be "negative", why believe that will be any different with a good driver trainer? That's scary! :biggrin_2555:

    When y'all pass a Big truck in a ditch, up-side down, do y'all ever wonder how that happened? Do y'all ever wonder what that driver was thinking? Do y'all ask yourselves why they were doing the things you see them doing? Have y'all ever almost been run over by a Big truck truck driver doing 40 MPH in a Big truck, truck stop parking lot? Have y'all ever been peeved because an inconsiderate driver leaves their Big truck parked on the fuel island while they eat and shower? Ever wonder WHO "taught" them to do that?

    I'd venture to think they were "taught" NOT to do those things, but they have selective ignore ingrained in their open minds. The old, "AFTER me, -- you come first" mentality. They know MORE about the industry and how to SAFELY manage their equipment than the well seasoned Big truck truck drivers. The new breed Big truck truckers who are bound and determined to show us old foggies how it's done -- THEIR way.
    Crashes looking for a place to happen, as they re-write the rules according to their perspective -- albeit distorted.

    When one can't or won't recognize sage advice offered by those who have over a million mile-markers safely driven in their back pockets, and fail to recognize when someone is trying to help them avoid the many pitfalls that could swallow them whole, and accuse those efforts of being "negative" -- HOW does/can ANYone "teach" someone like that? They already think they know it all. And they secretly laugh behind the backs of those trying to assist them.

    Wannabee is parroting almost word for word what another wannabee has said and accused me of. That other wannabee dove head-first into an empty swimming pool against all odds and good advice provided by myself and others, only to learn what we told him was TRUE. I give that other wannabee credit for being stand-up enough to admit he was mistaken, and apologized. I'm sorry he learned it the way he did, but at least he DID learn, and last I heard, he's decided Big truck truckin' isn't what he thought it was. That's sad because he hasn't really experienced what a GOOD Big truck truckin' company has to offer -- after choosing a bad company to start with. That being C.R. England.

    When your sights are properly adjusted for elevation and windage, and you aim low, the projectile seldom, if ever, hits high, or anywhere near the bullseye. If your target is paper, you just achieve a low score. If your target is the enemy shooting back, the outcome could be a disaster. Duck and cover and fix bayonets for an up-close and personal encounter.

    Wannabee, I don't know why you've chosen to believe I'm "jaded" and "bitter" for trying to point out what you can expect from C.R. England, but you'll accept advice from another poster about a less than stellar company with trucks that "look raggedy".
    Is it something personal with you?

    The ONLY Big truck truckin' company I'M down on is C.R. England because I PERSONALLY know a few people who have been nearly ruined by that company. And THEY know of other folks who HAVE been ruined, and THEY though the same way as you do when they decided there MUST be SOMEthing good about that company, and they THOUGHT they'd find what is was. They did, and it was the gate marked "EXIT HERE".

    But, you're gonna do whatcher gonna do, regardless of anything I, or others, tell you that you consider "negative". It's NOT about YOU -- rather, it's about C.R. England and their practices. You seem to want to make it personal. But it's not.

    So, go ahead and do what you think you have to do. You want me off "your" thread? No problem. Unless you continue to paint me in the wrong light, I'm outta here as far as commenting goes. I'll just continue to read what others tell you and your responses.

    Good luck to you.
    I think you're going to need it. :yes2557:
     
  6. Wannabeatrucker

    Wannabeatrucker Light Load Member

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    Okay well aftershock since you refuse to stop with the negativity I've reported you. Thanks.
     
  7. Ohnoo

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    Oh no! reported on teh interweb for stating personal opinions! Aftershock how could you? Say it ain't so!!!:biggrin_2553:
     
  8. AfterShock

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    Try to remain in reality, bubba. I've never been fired from a job in my longer than your's life.
    I'll tell you what though. When YOU have to resort to inventing fantasy about me to bolster your pointless points of view, you don't appear to be all that intelligent.

    Do you think you can stick to the facts, or are you prone to wandering off into your open fantasy mind from time to time?
    I sure wouldn't be comfortable with a Marine watching my back who couldn't tell reality from fantasy.
    Are you sure you weren't booted out of The Corps for day-dreaming? Or is it just that you couldn't deal with military life?
    Your attitude makes me wonder how long you were a Marine. I'm guessing about two years. Am I wrong?

    Anyway, as always, it's been entertaining conversing with you. :yes2557::biggrin_25522::biggrin_25525::violent1:
    Too-Ta-Lew,...................... for now.
     
  9. AfterShock

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    YuP!

    It's twue!
    It's twue!
    And now, it's official,......................
    I'm a baaaddd man, doncha know. :biggrin_25525: :biggrin_25523:

    I guess they don't make Marines like they used to. I wonder how many times Wannabe reported others to his Sergent?
    Perhaps I should stand down so he doesn't stroke out.
    Wouldn't want that to happen before he faces all that C.R. England has to dish out.
    Ya reckon I was too hard on the boy? :biggrin_25523:
     
  10. Chestnut67

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    :biggrin_25510:Aftershock, you know some people just have to learn the hard way which is how England keeps the seats full. I sure wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Personally I don't think I would go to any of the training companies in the current truckload economy.:biggrin_2552:
     
  11. Ohnoo

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    /e Points at the moldy straw in Scarecrow03 arm pit.
     
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