pneumatic blowers for sand hauling

I'm in the market for a blower as well. Kinda lookin at the cycloblower but don't really know that much about them. Wondering which is better- shaft driven or hydraulic driven pto for this app. Gonna be buyin both units to blow sand with. Also any good dealers in TX y'all recommend? Also lookin at trailers...which ones are good, which ones suck, ect. Thanks for all the help.

 

Shaft is a no brainer... skip the hydraulics. You'll have plenty of heat off the blower without adding the heat of hydraulics too. Throw in a heat exchanger needed for hydraulic oil cooling and your cap cost heads north too.

If I may ask......most frac sand brokers want you to show up complete with authority, insurance, trailer, hoses etc. The full meal deal if you will and this is unlike any other segment of the industry. Oh sure, carriers want allot but what they can get is different.

My Q: Why would you provide all these goodies to the broker instead of just humping loads yourself ? With all these goodies in place a hand could just show up at the sand plant and pull direct....yes? Or is the brokers "cut" worth the fast pay?

Just curious....

 

I can only speak on the frac sand of it, but here is why not:

Most of the time we load together in groups of 4 or 5 trucks, and this way we can service each well in one day.

It would take a one truck outfit all week to fill the same bins, and you will find the scheduling is much tighter than that.

 

Most customers in this business look for total coverage of their sand needs with one phone call.


It would be a logistics nightmare to try and cover 1 million plus pounds of
sand every 5 or 6 hours around the clock if a company had to deal with
each truck separately.

I'll let you do the math.....IF everything works flawlessly....it never does.

You have to have the trucks at your disposal.....right now.....if everything
is going to work without a delay.


It also keeps the big brokerage houses away from the frac sand business.

 

I have been haulin frac tech sand the past few weeks and have been dealing directly with them for loads. My boss is leased out to a logistics company who in turn leases out to the frac companys. I don't call my boss or the logistic company for dispatch I call the frac company that's coordinating the job. Basically I tell them what area I'm in and they tell me what's available. Basically a first come first serve basis. They don't like dedicating certain trucks to certain jobs because if they did while a truck is down or running behind they would be shooting themselves in the foot. So IMO isn't it feasible to run for yourself rather than give someone 10% of your loads when they didn't do anything? I think chalupa is right. I've been seeing this go on with o/o dealing directly with the frac company's rather than having thier loads brokered. But unless you have a good business head on you I wouldn't attempt it. There are more headaches involved.

 

Few realize the major problem is money and the ability to “float” the cash flow. Buying frac sand from the producers then waiting even 30 days to be paid by the end user with thousands of tons being moved on a daily basis is some serious money.
And we all know how dependable the oil industry is!
If I had that kind of cash flow capabilities I wouldn’t be in this business.

 

Anyone pulling for D&T out of Weatherford?

 

I do Frac everyday don't listen to the horror story's of waiting for days on location, or stuff like that. If your sitting an you own your rig your getting anywhere from 50 to 80 dollars an hour. The well sites are on a tight Frac schedule so the don't want you to wait. Plus they don't have the room to have you sitting around. Some of those sites need 40 to 90 loads between fracs so you see what I mean.

 

Right now in N Tx the drought has a LOT of jobs shut down.

 

Does anyone know where I can get a pneumatic blower for a good deal? I want either a 12L or a T1050.