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Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Cranky Yankee, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. -insert name-

    -insert name- ATM squishier

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    how many wheels does a truck have?

    18 tires, flywheel, steering wheel, fith wheel.....
     
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  3. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    this make so much more sense. I thought that song "18 wheels and a dozen roses" was about a guy with 4 cars and a motorcycle and 12 stripper girlfriends. Now I see it's about a truck driver with 12 stripper girlfriends.
     
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  4. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    What's the 20 on the 12 strippers, c'mon!?
     
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  5. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    I just figured that was as good as they could do for stripper names back in the 70's
     
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    -insert name- ATM squishier

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    Wheres this free show?
     
  7. CAXPT

    CAXPT Road Train Member

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    Whoa, gonna have to stop you here with these statements Autocar. Had 2 brakes out of adjustment in Finzel, MD and was put out of service.....also a windshield crack if it is within the drivers view is a violation regardless of when it occurred.. I don't see where you can make a blanket statement like that.

    In the old days, maybe we could slide until we could get repairs more conveniently, but that's the point I keep trying to make to company drivers that if you don't get these things fixed, because the company is stonewalling for a better time or place, to get the load done, then they need to be aware that they (the driver) is the one taking the chance, and will be held accountable.

    The new standard is, if it's broke and safety, it needs to be fixed, NOW!! There is no more, tomorrow.
     
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  8. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Not all cracks in the driver's view wil reult in OOS
     
  9. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    Perhaps one should read the regs, before inserting foot. Here is the link for you to peruse.
    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/Fmcsrruletext.aspx?contentid=3702
    Comparison of Appendix G, and the new North American Uniform Driver-Vehicle Inspection Procedure (North American Commercial Vehicle Critical Safety Inspection Items and Out-Of-Service Criteria)The vehicle portion of the FMCSA's North American Uniform Driver-Vehicle Inspection Procedure (NAUD-VIP) requirements, CVSA's North American Commercial Vehicle Critical Safety Inspection Items and Out-Of-Service Criteria and appendix G of subchapter B are similar documents and follow the same inspection procedures. The same items are required to be inspected by each document. FMCSA's and CVSA's out-of-service criteria are intended to be used in random roadside inspections to identify critical vehicle inspection items and provide criteria for placing a vehicle(s) out-of-service. Avehicle(s) is placed out-of-service only when by reason of its mechanical condition or loading it is determined to be so imminently hazardous as to likely cause an accident or breakdown, or when such condition(s) would likely contribute to loss of control of the vehicle(s) by the driver. A certain amount of flexibility is given to the inspecting official whether to place the vehicle out-of-service at the inspection site or if it would be less hazardous to allow the vehicle to proceed to a repair facility for repair. The distance to the repair facility must not exceed 25 miles. The roadside type of inspection, however, does not necessarily mean that a vehicle has to be defect-free in order to continue in service.In contrast, the appendix G inspection procedure requires that all items required to be inspected are in proper adjustment, are not defective and function properly prior to the vehicle being placed in service.Differences Between the Out-of-Service Criteria and FMCSA's Annual Inspection1. Brake System.The appendix G criteria rejects vehicles with any defective brakes, any air leaks, etc. The out-of-service criteria allows 20% defective brakes on non-steering axles and a certain latitude on air leaks before placing a vehicle out-of-service.

    2. Coupling Devices.Appendix G rejects vehicles with any fifth wheel mounting fastener missing or ineffective. The out-of-service criteria allows up to 20% missing or ineffective fasteners on frame mountings and pivot bracket mountings and 25% on slider latching fasteners. The out-of-service criteria also allows some latitude on cracked welds.

    3. Exhaust System.Appendix G follows Section 393.83 verbatim. The CVSA out-of-service criteria allows vehicles to exhaust forward of the dimensions given in Section 393.83 as long as the exhaust does not leak or exhaust under the chassis.

    4. Fuel System.Same for Appendix G and the out-of-service criteria.

    5. Lighting Devices.Appendix G requires all lighting devices required by Section 393 to be operative at all times. The out-of-service criteria only requires one stop light and functioning turn signals on the rear most vehicle of a combination vehicle to be operative at all times. In addition one operative head lamp and tail lamp are required during the hours of darkness.

    6. Safe Loading.Same for both Appendix G and the out-of-service criteria.

    7. Steering MechanismSteering lash requirements of appendix G follows the new requirements of §393.209.

    8. SuspensionAppendix G follows the new requirements of §393.207 which does not allow any broken leaves in a leaf spring assembly. The out-of-service criteria allows up to 25% broken or missing leaves before being placed out-of-service.

    9. FrameThe out-of-service criteria allows a certain latitude in frame cracks before placing a vehicle out-of-service. Appendix G follows the new requirements of 393.201 which does not allow any frame cracks.

    10. TiresAppendix G follows the requirements of 393.75 which requires a tire tread depth of4/32inch on power unit steering axles and2/32inch on all other axles. The out-of-service criteria only requires2/32inch tire tread depth on power unit steering axles and1/32inch on all other axles.

    11. Wheel and RimsThe out-of-service criteria allows a certain amount latitude for wheel and rim cracks and missing or defective fasteners. Appendix G meets the requirements of the new 393.205 which does not allow defective wheels and rims non-effective nuts and bolts.

    12. Windshield GlazingThe out-of-service criteria places in a restricted service condition any vehicle that has a crack or discoloration in the windshield area lying within the sweep of the wiper on the drivers side and does not address the remaining area of the windshield. Appendix G addresses requirements for the whole windshield as specified in 393.60.

    13. Windshield WipersAppendix G requires windshield wipers to be operative at all times. The out-of-service criteria only requires that the windshield wiper on the driver's side to be inspected during inclement weather.
     
  10. Meltom

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    That's gonna take like 10 minutes to read, forget that I'm going back to telling jokes.
     
  11. Cranky Yankee

    Cranky Yankee Cranky old ######

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