Pre-hire letters

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by WakeUpTheEchoes, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    No, I don't think you did see my point. It doesn't matter who is paying for the school. You or a grant. It is still not company financed. If you are in school or have been approved YOU DO NOT NEED a pre-hire letter. Just get your CDL and you are then hirable. That school recruiter is a bit daffy. Ignore this person. There are so many carriers looking for drivers they are paying signing bonuses. Again YOU DO NOT NEED a pre-hire letter!
     
  2. WakeUpTheEchoes

    WakeUpTheEchoes Light Load Member

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    WIOA sometimes requires a pre-hire letter. I saw your point. Your point was made. End of discussion.
     
  3. Moose1958

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    OK, I am confused. Have you been accepted to a school and have all the grants secured or not? If a stipulation of the grant is to get a pre-hire letter then, by all means, get one. I guess I assumed you had already been approved. I also am confused by your use of that word "sometimes". Not trying to be argumentative. To me this is like a girl is either pregnant or she is not. I don't think there is ever a stage where she is sometimes pregnant. Yes, I will abide by your end of the discussion request. I will close on this final point. Do you even know what you need? If not somebody has really dropped the ball here.
     
  4. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    Pre hire letters are not worth the paper there printed on. Get your CDL, lots of the companies will help you on the school payment.
    1. Make sure you have no tickets that are not taken care of now. BIG DEAL.
    2. No drugs from here forward of any kind. No smokin in the boys room. Thats the 2 biggest things that get drivers tossed out of orientation in the next job.
    Get your medical card out of the way as soon as you can, chiropractors tend to be a little easier.
    good luck, Oh yea numero uno, absolutely do not hit anything from here forward. Stop a million times if you don't know where something is, just don't hit it.
     
  5. WakeUpTheEchoes

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    Yes, sometimes. It depends on the state agency office through which a person goes. Some places will make it a requirement, others not. I am waiting for my appointment to meet with the case manager for WIOA at the Texas Workforce office in my area. This is not an absolutism issue. Unlike your analogy, there are many nuances and variables. I will know what I need definitively once I meet with the case manager. Summing it up, i’m In limbo for a week or two more. As you ask these questions now, I get why you were responding in the manner you did. I had not laid out my situation, so had were not aware that I don’t have everything fully determined yet. Thus, it created confusion.
     
  6. WakeUpTheEchoes

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    I am going through the WIOA grant. I have learned that some offices for the state agencies that assess eligibility require the pre-hire letters before money is paid to the school. I won’t know definitively whether I need the pre-hire letters for two more weeks. So, I might not have the luxury to forget about pre-hire letters. I will just have to wait and see. Everything else is taken care of so far.
     
  7. Moosetek13

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    I went through the WIOA grant as well, about a decade ago.
    I'm pretty sure the school you are going to will have a few companies that hire from there, and most of them should be willing to give a pre-hire letter.
    At my school there was Swift, Werner, and CRST.

    But a pre-hire letter is not a promise to hire.
    It just means that you will be considered for employment if all other considerations line up properly.
    In the end it doesn't really mean anything to anyone.
     
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  8. WakeUpTheEchoes

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    I have pretty much figured out that a lot of this is all smoke and mirrors. Put on a dog and pony show and it all looks good and what not, but the reality is that behind the closed doors, is a totally different scenario playing out. The school to which I am going is in Arlington, TX, and there are 150+ companies that hire graduates straight out of the school, some local, some regional, some strictly OTR, as well as the national brands that cover multiple segments. To what school did you go? How did you like it?
     
  9. Moosetek13

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    It was in San Diego, CA, - United - I think.
    Been a long time.

    They were very heavy on the pre-trip inspection, with some driving and backing thrown in.
    As with most schools, enough to get us to pass the DMV test and not a lot more.
    They were scant in certain areas like dropping and hooking to a trailer. We only did that a couple times.

    The time spent with pre-trip was actually the most helpful though.
    They took the time to explain all the different systems so we understood how the truck worked and what to look out for.
    And that accounted for fully half the time there.
    Overall, and even looking back, I am very happy with how they did things.

    Most of the learning comes after getting hired to a company and going out with the trainer/mentor.
    And even that training leaves much to be learned afterwards.
    After nine years out here, I still encounter new situations.

    The schools job is to get your foot in the door. They did a fine job with that, and I don't remember any of my class failing to get our CDL.
     
  10. tscottme

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    Yes HazMat has the most possible questions and unlike the other endorsements it must be renewed every 5 years. I've had HazMat since mid-90s. I study for it every renewal period. I use TheTruckersReport.com and TruckerCountry.com. Last time I missed 3 and they were questions not on any practice tests and they seemed to have 2 or more correct answers.

    BTW, the practice tests on this site have a couple of outdated questions relating to tire checks. And I think the requirement to carry a dated certificate of HazMat training by your employer. Tire checks are required at start of trip and everytime you stop. The old requirement was for tire checks at start and then every 100 miles or 2 hours. That's not required anymore.
     
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