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Discussion in 'Prime' started by hardluck77, Feb 10, 2011.

  1. silenteagle

    silenteagle Road Train Member

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    Kinda weak to try to demonize someone's point of view. Druggies are bad news, and bad employees... PERIOD... If you don't think so, go start a business and hire them. Until you can do that, don't try to hammer someone else's opinion.
     
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  3. atlasshruggery

    atlasshruggery Light Load Member

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    Obviously if someone is driving while intoxicated under any substance legal, or otherwise they should have their license suspended. That is not the issue though. I am talking about people who treat recreational drug users like they are a danger behind the wheel.

    I understand a trucking company testing for drug use, and being stricter on illegal drugs due to insurance issues. I do not get individuals caring one way or the other whether the person uses alcohol, weed, or whatever in their spare time.
     
  4. atlasshruggery

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    I agree druggies are usually bad news. My point was that alcohol is just as, if not worse than most illegal drugs, yet people dont feel the same way about a guy who drinks on the weekends. And I did not demonize anyones point of view. I am saying that people need to stop demonizing people who do use drugs.

    I would not hire any addict, whether that be an alcoholic, or a heroin addict. Being behind the wheel while intoxicated is a danger to the public, and could potentially destroy a business. However with that being said the double standard in this country when comparing Alcohol use, to other drugs is ridiculous, and makes no sense at all.
     
  5. windsmith

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    I feel that 'recreational' drug users have a right to do what they want on their own time. It is also my opinion that allowing them control of machinery that can and will maim or kill individuals other than themselves with no way to determine exactly WHEN or to what extent they are impaired by those 'recreational' drugs necessitates a zero tolerance policy. Those who choose to operate a CMV must also choose not to use 'recreational' drugs.
     
  6. rcd127

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    I agree 100%
     
  7. atlasshruggery

    atlasshruggery Light Load Member

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    So should someone who drinks on his off days also not be able to drive a truck? I mean alcohol is far more dangerous as far as operating a truck goes then say cocaine.

    What someone does on their off days is their own business. BTW I am not saying that companies should not drug test. A positive UA result shows a person is not able to control their drug use, and has a real problem, and therefor cannot be trusted behind the wheel. A positive hair test does not show that, the person could either be horribly addicted, or used twice in the past 3 months.
     
  8. windsmith

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    The difference is that a person can be tested and their level of alcohol impairment verified at the time that they are impaired. This is not possible with MJ or cocaine, so a zero tolerance policy is necessary. All this is aside from the fact that alcohol is LEGAL, while the others are NOT. The fact that someone willingly breaks the law speaks volumes to liability and cargo insurance carriers.

    I agree with the 'off days is their own business'. As for the rest, see my above post regarding breaking the law through use of ILLEGAL drugs. Proof of ILLEGAL activity would keep me and any other sane person from hiring that individual, and trusting them behind the wheel.
     
  9. OpenRoadDreamer

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    Dont need no druggies on the road. Its dangerous enough out here as it is.
     
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  10. chucky2908

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    I will say this now i would rather work with a stoner or pot head then work with a drunk or meth head, cranker, or cokers, because at least you can get the stoner to listen to you and they are not falling all over and freaking out about everything. Cause i have worked with my share of meth heads, crankers, coke heads, and drunks and trust me all they want to do is fight you and not work with you. The stoner on the other hand may be lazy or slow but at least they are a lot easier to get along with and they also take orders a lot better when told to do it. Just my experience i have had. Also stoners will not steal from your business unlike them drunks and meth heads do, because the stoner is to lazy to steal.
     
  11. PChase

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    The thing to remember about a lease is you are running a business.

    The $$$ your business earns belongs to the business, not you.

    Pay yourself a certain amount of $$$ from the business' income as a "salary" the rest stays in the business' bank account.

    If your business has a really good quarter you don't go home and buy a new pickup. That would be like embezzling $$$ from your own business.

    If you run a lease you need to be able to keep your personal $ and your business $ separate.
     
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