Pulling Pump Head for pre purchase inspection?

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  1. Razosupra83

    Razosupra83 Bobtail Member

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    Hey guys and girls. Gonna be lookin at a 2015 579 pete. Truck has an isx15 with 500k. Have any of you pulled the fuel pump head for inspection before purchasing? Wondering if they'd even let my mechanic pull it. Just the barrel and plungers go dor about $900, a new head is around $2k plus labor. Even worse is should it have the ceramic plungers its basically a ticking time bomb. Would rather catch this before buying then be held responsible shortly after purchasing. Thank you kindly
     
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  3. baha

    baha Road Train Member

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    You need to get a agreement from the seller to what's going to happen if it has not been updated yet?
     
  4. kranky1

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    You couldn’t give me one of those bright red boat anchors. Get one that ever had one of those ceramic pumps in the same parking lot with it you may as well file the bankruptcy papers when you buy it. One of my lessors had a CM2250. He was over $50k into that engine in two months. It blew up 3 weeks after he put it in service, and it blew up again 15k km after the inframe. That’s all still in court, and he’s in an old Farmall with a Cummins that’s only red on the top.
     
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  5. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Road Train Member

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    Yup. Company i worked for a couple years back got several dozen ISX powered trucks. Turns out every single one of them had ceramic pumps. Within 2 weeks half of these brand new trucks were getting new engines. Within 3 months every single one of them had gotten at LEAST one new engine and several were on their 4th or in one case their 5th. That company sold as many as they could and went to paccars. Sadly we got stuck with one of the few they kept and that #### thing was in the shop every month for over 2 years for major expensive repairs.

    It also doesnt help that my family has history with cummings motors. We consider the #### things cursed. This is because EVERY SINGLE TIME one of our family has gotten a cummings they tend to gernade within 6 months and be a constant never ending money pit. Doesnt matter if they are new or used either. Hell our family has had better luck with #### maxxforce engines.
     
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  6. Razosupra83

    Razosupra83 Bobtail Member

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    Yeah it seems all engine makers have their flaws. They're all a risk. I wanted to consider a paccar motor but the fact that for every cel it would have to be taken to the dealer. Cummins gives me the freedom to work on it myself. What was your experience with paccar engines?
     
  7. Razosupra83

    Razosupra83 Bobtail Member

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    What motor do you prefer? Mine has to be 2014 or newer as it's what's required to enter ports of los angeles.
     
  8. Razosupra83

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    I guess if they refuse to let me pop it open they could resort to that idea. Thank you for that. I am going to collect an oil sample as well and send to blackstone.
     
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    kranky1 Road Train Member

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    Mine are all Cats, ‘05 or older. And there’s not a container anywhere on the continent that pays enough to make me change that.
     
  10. Oxbow

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    Well no wonder you have had bad luck - it's Cummins, not cummings!

    I'm just teasing you, I've never owned a Cummins.
     
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    You might of been getting the wrong coloured ones. The good ones were brown. The N14’s were good too, but the rest of the black ones and those red ####ers are poison.
     
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