Qualcomm and E logs

That is an absurd trucker rumor,there is absolutley no system that can remotely shut off a Truck thru a Qualcom,,,NONE,end of story,end of debate,,,NONE

 

My problem is not running "legal" on elogs or paper.... there's difference, like I said before, on elog sometimes I have to stop 1 to 2 hrs earlier to avoid one min violation and that adds up more driving time on my following day and that impacts on my miles at the end of the week.

Simplicity for me was simply writing all the info on paper. Much easier, faster than this electronic thing where I have to tap here to know my hrs, than tap there to see line by line, than tap somewhere else to enter info, and tap another place to enter load info, etc... ... and the virtual keyboard is a hassle that takes much longer than just writting.... and if I make one mistake, have to go back and edit, which takes even more time. What kind of simplicity is that???

Maybe for those who didn't know how to write info on their paper logs, this nanny box is a helper but I never had problems with my paper logs, DOT checked them several times and never found one mistake.

 

Totally agree!

I spend one extra hr every day just checking elog, correcting some entries, editing, etc before I approve everything. And I still do my paper log because I have to see everything on paper. So I can save as much working time as I can with this elog. I am saving a little more than if I were on paper but the hassle and the time I spend double checking and correcting is not worthy. I would LOVE to go back to paper.... but at least in this company, it will not happen....

I never worried about DOT checking my paper logs... There's no guarantee that DOT will not check my elog... so, I must make sure I don't get even ONE MINUTE VIOLATION with this freaking nannybox cause i'ts not like I can hide that, it's not like paper log....

 

I felt the same way about e-logs on them for about a month was one of reason i left that company. Even after you get hang of it, still a pain in the #####. papper logs much less time consuming intering required info.
i too really hated all the extra fipping from screen to this or that. Granted if all had to do was change your duty status on main screen not much to it pretty simple. but, if you make a mistake an have to edit or how you have to go about adding info. man i hear ya no thanks. Paper logs quick an simple. JMO
20yrs paper logs i've never been writen a citation from dot either. KNOCK ON WOOD!! lol

 

You're overcomplicating the concept.

1st, it's much easier to catch a error on a EOBR and fix it than it is with paper.

2nd, You don't have the option to lie anymore, so maybe that's why you're mad. Granted it's only a couple of minutes; it's still falsifying logs.

 

Well driver its very simple,,like the acronym K.I.S.,,Keep It Simple(notice how i didnt belittle you with the last S)

Okay lets take what all you have ranted about,now most of your complaints are from one thing,,Your trying to do to much,,

1.You never have to update your hours,NEVER,they update automatically when you change duty status and or move
2.Trl Inspections:On our system(qualcomm) it is a "Form/Macro 35" which is done at the end of the day(the last thing I usually do) its on the qualcomm side
3.To run "errands we have a "Line#5" off duty driving,we are granted permission as long as we still have hrs left on our 11&!4 hr clock to do 1 hour of driving to go do what we need to do,you cant extend your day tho
Here is a usual day for me okay(say Im going to pick-up a load)

Wake up,do a change of duty status from sleeper to on duty(do a pretrip) 2 cliks,then clik to Off Duty

Get what I need,a cup of Java get back in truck start my day and drive(Elogs automatically switches to driving)

Arrive at customer,Change duty status to "Off Duty-(Loading),get loaded,clik on "Load" and enter 3 things,Load #,BOL#,TRL#

Go to Qualcomm side and enter all pertanent load info(our form#6)once I hit enter,our system automatically dispatches us to the prescribed destination with said appt time or destination time.Im still in Off Duty so when i start to move now ELOGS senses movement and it changes duty status automatically

I drive the load to destination,at consignee,i show a "arrived msg" on qualcomm side and switch to ELOGS and clik duty status to "Off Duty/Unloading,wait to be unloaded and then send in my empty call(our Form#12) ElOGS still in auto mode as it will not change until i move the truck over 2 miles

End Of day I park truck,Clik from driving to Off Duty /post trip insp(Form#35) and after that i clik to the Sleeper berth,do my 10 and start all over again

I cant remember the last time I had to go back and edit an entry
I rarely look past the 1st screen,if there is hours there,,your gold,all those screens you mention are just info screens,your not doing anything to them ,just looking at them

One last thing,I dont know what "fuse" you are talking about,but you do understand that there are actually 2 systems in your truck,the Satellite,is always on,if for some reason you "Disapear"it will go into search mode at your company,and and it will calculate where your truck was and apply all movement to your elogs once the power is put back on(you replacing the fuse) so in essence you have gained nothing

Like I tell all the people that come here and have the same ?'s you have,,the system is idiot proof,,,it just takes a week to get used to it

just simplfy!!!

Lastly,I dont know what company you drive for but your last statement about ELOGS being inconvenient,cause of dispatchers running you illegal and how drivers dont know how to "Calculate",,might want to re-read that.Your Company is on ELOGS(like mine) because of lazy drivers who dont know how to calculate their hours and yet you are claiming that it takes YOU 1 hour every day to correct your mistakes on a system that is nearly foolproof in its simplicity

 

THANK YOU!!!

 

Driver, each company is different. I drive for ******* and they have their rules on how to use their elog and the info they want and how to get permission to use line 5, I don't even bother asking for that....etc, etc. When I am on my 34 reset like today, and I want to drive around, do my groceries, go to the Oktoberfest downtown like I did today and not show any driving time, I do like I said and elog will not register any driving, no RPMs, no Idle. Once I go back to where I started, I put fuse back in place and elog will not show any moving. Have been doing this for a while with no problem with log dept or the company.

Some people just click, change their status... and take whatever time it takes. I don't. I calculate every min of what I do to get the most out of my hrs. So, I don't take 15 mins to fuel, but 5 sometimes 4, I use only 7 to 10 mins to check in at shipper or do a drop&hook and that's where I gain some time as opposed to paper log.
I use between 5 to 7 mins for Pre-trip. Normaly I put myself on ON dutty and start moving truck just after 2 mins and sometimes 1 min... So, by the time the elog automatically puts me on DRIVING, it will show 5 mins ON-Dutty I am always looking for ways to save working time. And that takes some practice and a lot of planning.
I have always planned my trips, all my stops, my breaks when I was on paper as well. Sometimes I would go a few mins over my 11 or 14 but on paper that wasn't a problem. And I don't give a %&*$ about those who say, "... oh, you were lying on your log..." So what?!! A few mins??? Gimmie a freaking break. How is that going to affect me, the safety or whatever?

You said when you park for the day, you change from driving to off dutty??? You don't show on-duty for 15 mins (PTI)????


The other thing is that I forget a lot. Sooooooo many times, I get out of truck and forget to change my status. Then, when I come back, I have to do more than one or 2 clicks to edit.

Like I said, each elog is a little different and each company is different. And I don't show exactly what I do so that I can save more working time.

 

If your Qualcomm, or whatever you use for elogs goes down, that's when you log on paper. You go back to your elog when it gets fixed. What these drivers do, that you speak of that do this, are doing nothing more than running two logs..... I hardly doubt dot will show mercy if you get caught with two logs and use the excuse for having a "backup" in case the electronic log system goes down. That's why even with elogs, its required by the dot to carry paper logs as well and you can get a violation for not having them.

 

1st, Easier to catch an error? I rarelly had an error on paper and when I did, would use Whiteout, which is much easier and faster than editing on this eletronic thing. Like I said, DOT checked my paper logs many times and never found one mistake. I guess knew how to do my paper logs.

2nd, I will continue "lying" to avoid showing a freaking 1 min violation....