Question about axle ratios

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Epicdudejo, Mar 8, 2019.

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    201 Road Train Member

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    If you are mostly off road with ball-buster loads, those gears would be fine. It saves on the clutch too.
     
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  3. Humblepie

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    If you’re going to be off road the 5.17 will be what you want. Not like you’re going to spend much of any time in the big hole. I run 4.33’s and sometimes that ain’t enough
     
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    Epicdudejo Bobtail Member

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    It seems my choice of axle is within the ball park.

    Thanks for all the input :)

    Just one last question. Depending on the engine's power, can I play on the axle ratio and maintain the same torque?
     
  5. x1Heavy

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    No.

    Your engine puts out a specific amount of work. Torque is one of these, a value of work from rotation against a load or inertia. If you have good engine and casterated it with crappy 1.60 gearing then it's yourn fault when it stalls out under you. But you can have a tiny lawnmower engine with about a 1000.5 gearing (It would be around 4 feet tall..) and you can move 500 ton. Not very fast but you would move it.
     
  6. Epicdudejo

    Epicdudejo Bobtail Member

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    That sounds like what I imagine gears ratios do.

    The way I understand it, I could change the axle ratio proportionally to the engine's power output and have the same torque for a given transmission gear. The only difference would be the individual gear's top speed.
     
  7. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    No. Ratio means rotation. If you put a little tiny gear with a 600 Red Cummins on it rotating 1500 times per minute against say a big gear, it will take a minute or two for that big gear to come around one time.

    That's where the transmission comes in to play. You are picking a drive ratio that will turn that little gear faster so you can get somewhere with that big rear end gear today sometime to keep your dispatcher happy.

    I cannot ... *Hunts for words.. dumb things down (Not offense against you or anyone, just a thought of concept of ratio, drive and speed) any further.

    Now the other side. If you had that big red cummins turning a 2 foot wheel gear at 1500 and put it on a tiny gear in your rear, you are going to have a 300 mph truck. You could try to slow it down to something useable with your transmission. But try to carry a bag of groceries on that tractor it will just fall down and stall.

    The easiest visual I can think of is NASA's Launch Crawler. It's top speed is about .9 mph and it has a gear tower that makes each of it's two electric driven motors rotate 168 times for every one rotation of it's GIANT tread gear.
     
  8. BoxCarKidd

    BoxCarKidd Road Train Member

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    Single axle 5th wheel trucks are nearly useless off a hard surface if they do not have some weight on them. An axle lock helps a lot.
    Many short wheel base tandems with a set back axle turn very well.
     
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