Question about EOBR's

Point 1 - it depends on how the company policy dictates what happens when you do violate the 11 or 14 hour rule. I've heard of some carriers who will terminate without question. My carrier would prefer that if we need to move the vehicle due to an unsafe situation that we take the HOS elog violation, and make a note of why the truck was moved. No reprocussions to the driver.

Point 2 - the idea of not being able to account for where the driver is during time logged on line 1 is one of the complaints frequently heard from the public (non-driver) safety groups. I have read that at least one carrier is using some kind of bracelet that monitors the location of the driver in conjuction with the EOBR/elog unit. And yeah, that does smack of being in prison. That's way over the line.

The elog system as currently implemented at my carrier is just fine. Yup, there are some adjustments, and you certainly can't push the drive line envelope while running on them. I haven't experienced a loss of revenue (at least revenue that was generated while being compliant with the HOS rules) or miles. You certainly do have to adjust how you do things, and one can get into a situation that forces a missed appointment if you're not planning ahead properly.

 

If a company's profits drop by 30% when switching to E-logbooks, then maybe its time to raise the rates?

 

you missed the point. it's one thing to run as leagel as possible, but when im sitting there one my break bored out of my gord, an want to get my truck serviced or inspected,,,we should be able to do what we want for those 34 hrs

 

Ah... so you're living in a world not governed by the FMCSRs, eh? No offense, but by law as soon as you get your "truck serviced or inspected" you're on line 4.

Personally, I agree with you.

 

I have a quite few problems with EOBRs.....
First: they are electronic devices that can and will fail (and don't say your computer never locks up, ect.)
Second: The big companies are pushing for EOBRs as a way to lower their manpower costs..does that mean no one will audit for errors IE: correct driver numbers, ect. or they are just going to rely on the computer to rat on itself
Third: The big companies will have a way to "secretly" manipulate a drivers hours to make sure a "Hot" load is delivered. (if you don't think they will you're living in a dream land)
Fourth: These EOBRs records will be used against drivers as a revenue source for the government with no opportunity for the driver to dispute said records. After all the EOBRs said you were at fault
Fifth: Lawyers will have a field day with these EOBRs in an accident.
Sixth: What ways are the drivers going to be able to dispute the EOBRs? In court? doubtful
Seven: They will also be a way for a company to Blackball an "uncooperative" driver just like they now use the DAC system
Eight : EOBRs have nothing to do with safety, they are about control and revenue........
Nine: If the current paper system is so bad then why are crash deaths declining over the last 10 years?
Ten: Will the driver be able to print/keep a paper log if he/she wants to everyday for his/hers protection?

Sorry for being so long winded.... I can think of a lot of different ways that EOBRs will cause more problems than they will "Fix".

 

Oh dear, drivers will actually have to be HOS compliant now. Everything will actually match during an audit LOL

 

The e-log systems have a "line 5" for this. If you have to run over hours to get to a safe haven, it gets put on line 5.

I wont be wearing any kind of monitoring device, they can forget that...

 

That's a violation if you're loaded... line 5 is only for off-duty driving.