With E-logs, dispatch shouldn't have the power/authority to manipulate a drivers active log.
This driver did make the call...and dispatch appeared to be at first in "old school" mode...i.e., "just get it done driver"!
Dispatch has the capability to see the drivers active log and what hours are available. That is what a lot of drivers are complaining about...the fact that companies can "better manage" their drivers, utilizing maximum availability.
Question about HOS violation
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by TruckerGonnaBe, Jan 18, 2015.
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You know, I've seen a few sanctimonious types of this nature preach how the ONLY way this could ever happen to someone is "poor planning"
I'd agree IF it's a consignee you have been to before and they are they now known for this type of behavior. But frankly, my personal feeling is that anyone tells me that running out of hours while not being allowed to spend the night has never happened at a strange consignee they've never been to before is full of crap, and their day is coming.
Now, if it IS a place you know, I would advise taking a 10 hour break before going there, so you can be fresh. -
Wonderful. So now some pencil neck who barely ever ventures beyond the walls of his cubicle and can't be bothered to step away from the Instagram or Fantasy Football long enough to answer the telephone NOW all of a sudden thanks be to E-logs has the smarts to prevent a driver from running into exactly the sort of situation as described in the OP here?
Yeah, ok.
Who wants to buy my oceanfront property in Kansas?bigdogpile Thanks this. -
otherhalftw...................... the dispatcher doesn't have to do anything to your logs to officially remove you from duty regardless of what system the company uses . He/she places you on the inactive board with a ETA....... per say. The system knows what your ETA is from your own QualCom message. They will almost always be looking for loads that work close to your ETA and Hours available. That makes it official. I used to sit right beside my dispatcher when he/she was dealing with other drivers while we were #### chatting. I could see where everyone was, who was having problems, who was being loaded/unloaded. Who was on off home time. What the drivers estimated time of availability was. They had everything on thier screens.
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Where I last worked (driving) this was rarely an option. You leave stop 1 at 20:00 then get your break (out of hours). Next stop is 500 miles away for 16:00 next day. How you going to "take a 10 before arriving"? Then they jerk you around for 4 hours and the nearest truck stop or parking is 20 miles away ???
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not entirely true, but in her case it would be, if ever at a shipper/receiver for an extended amount of time, and your 14 runs out,and they won't let you stay on site, DOT, will allow you to drive to a safe haven, her best bet would be, if possible? Call receiver and ask if she can deliver early, (if she can make it there that is) so to have enough time to get back to a safe haven
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Because the "system" has the smarts doesn't guarantee the "pencil neck" can utilize the information offered! Besides, isn't it ironic that you with a sig line that tells the reader what ISP and running system the reader is using would be able to think beyond the steering wheel and hubcaps? Same argument, opposite poles I guess!
Kansas ocean front...nah, I'm just waiting for Folsom Dam to become the coastal boat launch area so I can have an ocean view from my foothill location. -
I hope the fmcsa reads threads like these ..
Regulate the typical driver pretty well into the poverty line, never address all the factors around actual driving that impact "safety" ... -
I know the ETA and PTA capabilities of the system when utilized in the old ways...what I was referring to was the e-log application of HOS.
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If that's what it takes to avoid running out of hours on the consignee's property, and you know you can't take another 10 there, then that's what you have to do, whims of idiot dispatchers be ######.
From where I sit, that is a small price to pay to stay out of the crosshairs of slip-and-fall lawyers.
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