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We do have to have an environmental certification to buy it here. Took it many years ago.

 

Copy that

 

It’s almost all corrupt in the upper echelon of business and government. Regardless of product type/price…imo the end goal seems to only end with hurrying up to own land/house that’s self sustainable. Rebuild older vehicles, tools you can maintain vs tools that need to be unlocked via program for repair like the new tractors. Not some end of the world attitude, but one in which you’ve got skills and supplies that don’t require much outside of yourself. It’s a dead end trying to work with the progress in our regulations. You can make plenty of money offering harder skills and selling organic fruits/vegetables, and/or handmade items. Just remember, there is someone making a living selling “crocticles” for crocs. Balls that hang off the back of your crocs.

 

I agree
When I lived in Atlanta area, Fulton and dekalb county used to always be the last two counties to rally up their votes , and they always magically found just enough votes to put their guy over the top.

the state or the feds need to force Fulton and dekalb to post up their vote counts first , before any other county does , so they can’t cheat anymore .

 

You don't have to look far into the past when fairly dangerous things were used for HVAC. Butane, to be more specific, was used in early air conditioners and refrigerators. Early automotive heaters worked like our modern bunk heaters, only using gasoline instead. I guess it worked ok until it didn't? Seems like most of the stuff that's really good at transferring heat efficiently is either explosive or poison gas.

Anyone hauling a reefer unit ought to be aware of the windsocks on top of cold storage buildings. It's not just for tornados. They use ammonia in the chillers and liquid nitrogen for flash freezing. Sometimes that stuff gets loose. No risk no reward, right?

Has it improved any? When I did the freon certification in 1980-something, it was a like a 10 question open book test you could do in about 15 minutes or less if you're a fast reader. In a nutshell, it was, "if you vent it into the air, cute penguins will die in Antarctica." I'd hardly consider it as a credential that might suggest elevated environmental knowledge or skill, which is what the government wants you to believe it does.

 

LMFAO, I haven't actually read any posts up to this point, but it's crazy dad was just bit ching about this. He owns his own shop, and was out and about working on something. He needed another $90 bottle of freon. His guy said, "are you sitting down? Because they're $350 now."

It's just crazy he was just telling me about it a week ago, and now it's on the forum.