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Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by Dave_in_AZ, Sep 8, 2017.
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Let us all feel bad for the scumbag freight agents. A moment of silence please lmfao.
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I think it's important at the moment as well, when dealing with said scumbag agents, and you know they are taking it up the ###, to tell them " Yes I can help you with that."
That's why we are all here, to help. Making money is a secondary condition. -
The reality is that there are more loads than there are trucks to haul them. This by definition means that some of the loads are going to have to go unhauled. Every commodity has a transportation cost where it stops being worth shipping... And the market rate will keep going up until the music stops playing because enough shippers gave up. The load value on my loads is like 9k. Our quitting point is earlier than someone moving a load of pork that is worth 80k... That shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
For my customers the quitting point is 33-3400 to the truck to go to the Orlando area from the Louisville area. For comparison that load paid 2400 last year and we had trucks lined up around the block to take it. RollinCoal would be right if every shipper weren't simultaneously trying to cut back as much as possible. The reality is that the grocery stores are going to have to make some choices about how much relief they want to give their vendors. If the answer is not much they can expect to see a lot of their orders not get filled.
EDIT: I should point out they started losing money around 2900-3000. The margins on 9k loads of produce aren't THAT good. Not after you buy land, hire people to grow and harvest the product, sort it, have some % of it spoil, have some % of it get rejected, and pay for transportation.
None of this is suggesting that any of you are doing anything morally wrong by making as much money as you physically can. Quite the contrary... You should all be working as hard as you can and negotiating as hard as you can. The shoe has been on the other foot recently and I don't recall the shippers giving a warm fart whether a trucking company was sustainable at those rates or not.
Don't feel sorry for me... I'm doing just fine. Yes it's been a bit of a hit on my produce season but this trend also got me my first big break into large scale corporate logistics... And that could easily result in my having access to a lot more freight in the future. And I made more money in the first six months of this year than I made in 2016... so I'm just fine with all of this. Anything that makes me more valuable (and trucks being harder to find makes me much more valuable) is fine with me.Last edited: Sep 23, 2017
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The load I listed a few posts ago, here is epitome of the scumbag agent. The dude really has his panties in wad now because he owes me a few hundred in detention.
They knew this before I left the shipper.
So, I get to the receiver, the receiver drives up to me on his forklift " Man I just called them like 15 minutes ago, and ask if there was any way we could get you here early. We really need this stuff, and I have people standing around. They told me not only could they not be here early, that no way you'd make it before 5 or 6. "
Appointment was 1400 / I arrived at 1115 / Scumbag told him 1700 or 1800.
" I'll have you unloaded quick, take dock 4."
" Thank you sir."
Call in arrival. Oh great gland hand, blah, blah. Not so fast. Where's my detention pay.
" Oh we'll call shipper, blah, give us a few, blah."
"OK."
So empty at 1300. World is a better place. Call in empty call, different person everytime. " OK thank you." Not so fast. Go in and tell the boss I want my detention so I can scan my BOL's.
Not sure if it was a supervisor, or the actual agent, but he's mad. " You want detention???? Well I'd like my money I gave you for the deadhead. ( It's in writing, never gonna happen, LS will make him pay )
This is the best part.
"You weren't supposed to deliver early. They will count that against us. "
OK. " Ummmm. I never set foot in the building. Your customer was literally taking the stuff out of the truck putting it on the shelves. "
" That might be want they want. But the shipping department will count it against us".
What? Do these scumbags even listen to their own lines of BS?
I've a notion to write the customer describing the situation and asking would they rather have the product in the truck, their employees doing nothing, or in the hands of the consumer. Wonder what the share holder would say?
There were 4 loads that had to be shipped. Mine was early. Just knowing the lay of the land, one was on time that left like 8 hours before me / or early. One was way late. Way late. Wonder how there shipping department likes all the extra labor to unload it??? It might still be sitting in the dock. One is still on the board right now, at a rate that no one is going to get excited about, because of where it's going.
Scumbag broker never bothered to call for an ETA for two reasons. 1) He didn't want to talk about the detention. 2) His minions are tards.
Thus are these situations when you pretend that God is your God, but the truth is that money is your God.
And it all started with his pleas ( In writing ) for help. I held up my end. Always do. Should I do him a favor now? This is business. I go to church for forgiveness & prayer. I move freight to make money. -
Freight brokers speaking of morals. I have woken up Earl because he has never heard a line of BS like this before.
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