Re-learning to shift a 13-speed EF

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  1. God prefers Diesels

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    You can't do that. Even if you can get it out of gear, it's going to be hell on the outside corner of the gears getting popped out with engine being applied. The reason you can let off and float, is because the gear mesh goes into sort of a neutral point. Last thing you want to do is pull the shifter into neutral while coasting or accelerating, if you understand my meaning.

    Also when I engage my fan on a hill, I do it at low RPM right before I drop my first gear. That way I'm not slamming the fan on at 1,800 RPM so to speak. I'll run right until it's time to downshift, flip on fan, then make the shift and run it to the top. And as other's said, I too always run it when idling for A/C.
     
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    Here is a video that has less talk and is filmed with the truck in motion, unlike the first video I posted.
    Unlike the video I waited until I was 7th or 8th to use the splitter, except when heavy or climbing a steep grade.
    The driver in this video doesn't pull the gear stick to neutral and then back into the original gear position, like DRTDEVL suggests. I never did that .
    I floated gears, others double-clutch. Use whatever method you are already using. The splitter will change between Hi & Lo just by lifting off the throttle. You will hear a clunk. Make sure you hear the clunk before you mash the throttle again or you will over-rev.
     
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    Yes, 100%. The gear clash is awful. I had never heard of what DRTDEVL is explaining, preselect then lift throttle, pull stick out and put stick back in same spot. I am willing to change, but it's the first I've heard of his technique.
     
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    Same. The way I understand that tranny, as soon as you preselect and let off the throttle for a neutral pass, it's going to split before you even get into neutral anyway.

    However a neutral pass would ensure it's fully split before you reapply throttle which can be a problem if you blip it too fast. But I also haven't driven one in almost fifteen years now, and I never was too good at it to begin with.
     
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    Does this video helps you?
     
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    Here's a video that shows the technique but it has cameras on the feet, tach, and gear lever
     
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    What you say is exactly how I did it. I'm not driving so I can't try what DRTDEVL suggested. None of the videos show anyone doing that technique. I'm not even sure I understand what DRTDEVL is saying so I'm half certain I don't understand and half certain of I didn't do it.
     
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    Better video.
     
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    @gekko1323 whatever way you are shifting between gears, double-clutching or floating, keep using the same method. As far as I know there is nothing about the splitter use that needs you to use one method or the other. Whatever method you are using you only need to use that when you are moving the gear stick from one position to another position, not when you allow the splitter to do it's magic. Pre-select the splitter, at the RPM shift point, lift the throttle, hear the "clunk", apply the throttle.
     
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    From the transmission maker.
    This video uses different terminology than what I was using.
    There is Hi-Range and Lo-Range gears, the black up/down switch at the front of the gear stick.
    The red splitter has 2 positions. This video calls the splitter back position "Direct". I was calling it "Lo"
    The red splitter forward, this video calls it "Overdrive" and I was calling it "Hi"