Reefer to flat/step?

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by ‘Olhand, Jun 19, 2013.

  1. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    Life is pretty good round here--but time to time I have gotten unsolicited offers--and last night was one.
    I have a very good friend that runs a large excavating company...and I have helped him on more than one occasion--moving equipment--or runnin a tri ax for a few hours....
    He is also co owner with his brother of a 5 truck flat/step fleet--one of his drivers is retiring labor day--after 34 years with company(buddies Dad started it)
    His other 4 all been there at least 20--so he was lamenting at the tavern--about just sellin the truck--cause of the hassel of findin someone reliable etc(think he was trying to ease this into conversation--sneaky ###### he is)'
    He said "you know of any guy looking for work like YOU!" Said aint lookin--he said no I mean like you--you no what I mean........
    So I gave him my standard smart-### answer--Id love to drive your KW--but Im not qualified to pull a skateboard.....He looked at me funny and asked why? ###### Tramp i said "I can back!" You ###hole
    We both laughed--anyway he call me early this AM and asked what it would take to go to work for him...Told him if really that serious--Ill be at the tavern 8am Sat morning--ride up and we will go for a long bike ride and discuss it....
    NOw I've been out here a long time--so I KNOW ALMOST ALL THE BS--but I have NEVER pulled a deck---
    SO some of you that have lots of time in--kinda fill me in--Ive heard all the stories----but Id like some REAl answer---How hard is it---how long does it take to properly secure items etc.....
    Thanx in advance
     
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  3. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    what's there to share?

    If you don't think it's tied down good enough, tie it down some more.

    If you are hauling pipe, belly wrap it and then wrap it again.

    Take pride in your tarp jobs and make sure they are tight. The tighter you get them, the less they flap around and cause wear on the tarps too making them last longer as well.

    If you haul stuff that is EXTREMELY light and needs securing, better to use lots more tie-down than not enough and crush it.

    In today's age, TAKE PICTURES of your loads if you have to and email/text them to the boss and say, "Whatdoya thinks?"
     
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  4. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    I understand all that---BUT--I haven't ever done it--not afraid to admit I would be a serious newby
    How long does it take to pick it up--properly--not some bs mega comp training? I dont do things half assed--I have NO idea where to start=thats what I am asking
    Thanx
     
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  5. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    That's just it....

    Flatbedding doesn't take a lot of training.

    Pick up a securement manual and read it. You'd be about as trained as you can get.

    Have him take pictures of different loads if they can for you is another option for examples.

    Water pipe ALWAYS gets a smoke tarp too. (unless you drive a street sweeper exhaust) The exhaust will melt itself into the pvc with the potential for an install to fail a quality check.

    Weight and stuff is the same as any other rig. Might want to ask how board feet of different woods you can carry.
     
  6. Ruthless

    Ruthless Road Train Member

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    Pretty much what MnDriver said. There are plenty of little tricks to make life easier, but the reality is that its all fairly straightforward. Some aspects are uncomfortable (mostly weather related) but nothing that you can't think yourself through before doing it.
     
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  7. Big Jay

    Big Jay Light Load Member

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    'Olhand,

    I've read enough of your posts to know that if you decide to do it you will do it well. MNDriver is right. Read the book. Ask some questions. It's pretty straightforward. Surely you've met a skateboarder or two over the years who's intelligence you question? Think about it, if they can do it you can as well. All comes down to desire.
     
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  8. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    While it has been many moons since I've had a skateboard behind me, I might be able to shine a penlight's glow on some of this.

    How hard is it to tie down? The first week or two will be brutal, as you'll be doing it the hard way, and often redoing it as you realize your first plan was a fail. But you'll quickly find the tricks to minimize the physical aspects, and from what I know of you, your spatial IQ is good enough that it will be a help. Being able to 'see' your securement before the load is on the wagon is a major help.

    After the first few weeks, it'll get easier, as you'll be starting to get your routine down pat. And it's important to have one! It'll save you a lot of walking/climbing and help you not forget any steps. It's just like any complex task, doing it the same way every time means it's done right every time! In a month it'll be easy peasy, and even a new type of load will add only a bit to your securement time.

    Now the "ol'" part? :D
     
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  9. MJ1657

    MJ1657 Road Train Member

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    I'll make it very easy to make your decision if you can do it olhand.

    Do you have common sense?

    If yes proceed to open deck work.
    If no don't proceed to open deck work.

    Common sense plus a helpful tip from a friend or fellow open decker is all it takes.
     
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  10. Logan76

    Logan76 Crusty In Training

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    I'm positive the man has common sense...

    Give it a shot, you'll do fine.
     
  11. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    If there's anyway to do a couple runs BEFORE you sign on, do them. Flatbedding can be hard work for an old guy with no experience. At your age, you don't need that, right ? Sometimes you will load steel inside a plant with other trucks waiting to load behind you and you need to tie down and tarp real fast before you go outside. Sometimes you need to "help" load by placing dunnage for the forklift guy and you need to know where it goes. They don't care if you're new at flatbedding. Or you need to gut wrap as the loader is loading and can only do this before he loads the next ticket (bundle) so you gotta' be fast on your feet. He will help you, but you need to ask for help and get him to do it BEFORE he leaves your truck and heads for the next one. Same with loading coils, you need to prepare your deck before the loader starts loading you.
     
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