Regarding Violation on a DOT Level 2 Inspection

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Southeast Trucker Mike, May 2, 2022.

  1. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    The regulations don't have to make sense, and the consequences don't just hit the driver ONLY if he agrees with them. The standard practice for many cops is to call what they are about to issue a warning/inspection, and issue no fine. You can fight a ticket/fine, but you cannot usually fight an inspection/warning. I don't know if the cops have wrong information and are actually trying to avoid punishing the driver/company for the event that caused the "inspection". I don't know if the cops writing these inspections know there is a penalty that follows the company/driver. The best plan is to not speed, not even just keeping up with everyone else who IS NOT A CDL DRIVER and to have zero defects on your equipment, not just NO BIG ISSUES YOU FEAR MAY GENERATE A FAILED INSPECTION. I don't know if The System is out to get me and others, but having no violations is the best plan whether the system is out to get me or not, That may mean doing extra work that the slackers often get away not doing. Life's not fair.
     
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  3. Trucker61016

    Trucker61016 Road Train Member

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    Plenty of us drive 64 all day long and it's not unsafe, so yeah you quit because the company actually punished you for speeding and 2 over is still speeding so again you're making excuses instead of owning up to your mistake...
     
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  4. Trucker61016

    Trucker61016 Road Train Member

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    If they have a policy about speeding and warnings of punishment they absolutely can and should enforce them.....he was caught speeding and got inspected.....ultimately he's responsible for operating safely at all times that includes going slower than the idiots around him.....I wish folks would stop excusing someone from personal responsibility....
     
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  5. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    But if people did what they are supposed to do, there's no telling how that might end. <shudder> LOL
     
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  6. bad-luck

    bad-luck Road Train Member

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    Just a word to the wise... I travel 85 frequently in South Carolina and DOT works this area all the time, especially in the construction zone and in the 60 mph zone. Don't go over the speed limit in these areas or give them any other reason to stop you for that matter. I have actually had South Carolina DOT pull up next to me in the 60 mph zone and run my numbers. I wasn't speeding, and they never stopped me.

    In regard to what your company did. They governed your truck because you were stopped for speeding, even though it wasn't more that 4 mph over, you were stopped for speeding. From a company standpoint they need to take some sort of disciplinary action for speeding, even though it is minor for liability and insurance purposes. I think it was drastic for 4 mph over, a written warning in your file would be more appropriate. In my opinion, you should have taken your lumps and moved on.
     
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  7. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    It WILL show up on your PSP, just a matter of time.

    I am not ASSuming you were speeding; the DOT Trooper did and used it to initiate an inspection. You can bet your last dollar that the speed wouldn't dissapear if other violations were discovered. Violations don't go away; the lightbulb one got working was still out when stopped and will be on the report.

    I do not know the companies SMS record but the insurance does and it appears that the company has implemented procedures to maintain/obtain compliance.

    The DOT warning via the inspection report is how they monitor compliance and many companies monitor this closely; espcially if the FMCSA has reached into their bank account with fines -or- their insurance has become so expensive that they were forced to implement some sort of policy.

    I'm not doubting the speeding pickup; but it is one of the oldest [perhaps with good reason] 'reasons' heard by managers and safety directors so I'm not suprised the company discounted it; after all you were their empoyee not the speeding pickup driver.

    Corrective action, especially if driven by the results of a FCMSA audit with a pending re-investigation such as when a carrier is seeking to return from a Conditional rating to a Satisfctory rating is considered to be an educational tool.

    Furthermore the result of the PSP limiting one's potential employment was really a comment for those new to the industry and not the sterling example of truckerhood you portend to be.

    Between the PSP and the D & A Database future drivers need to realize they are now being monitored and I beleive their education to be one of the purposes of this forum.
     
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  8. Trucker61016

    Trucker61016 Road Train Member

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    Yeah, we wouldn't have OPs trying to justify their lack of judgment and blaming others.....lol
     
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  9. merv85

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    First of all the whole cop with the speed gun trap is a scam, If the government truly wants to save lives by reducing the accidents caused by speeding then they should install a lot more stationery speed cameras,

    if you look at the below report, USA has a lot less speed cameras for its size

    https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/fl.../09/25/uk-has-more-speed-cameras-than-the-usa

    There is no way the cop can prove the OP was speeding even by 1 mph, the cop just wanted a reason to stop the OP for DOT inspection.

    The cop misused his authority and the OP is now facing the brunt for it.

    This is one of the reason trucking industry is losing drivers (harassment from authorities, no backing from company/peers)

    Why couldn't the OP get a break, he was not doing Donuts on the road with truck.
     
  10. Trucker61016

    Trucker61016 Road Train Member

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    Umm dot doesn't need a reason to pull a commercial vehicle over for inspection...the OP stuck out by traveling faster than the posted speed its his fault period....
     
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  11. ZVar

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    His problems are 100% his fault. Maybe if he wouldn't habitually speed, and maybe if he was paying attention to driving and knowing his speed he would not have gotten a violation.
    Also if he wouldn't have thrown a fit and quit he wouldn't be looking for a job.
     
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