Ridiculous rates

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by skman, May 27, 2015.

  1. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Atlanta has been like that for over 5 months. It's the same old story as everywhere else. About a tenth of the freight that used to be available is what's there now but you have 5 times as many trucks fighting over those scraps. It wasn't all that great prior to July down there although you could still get a good rate back then if you were patient.
     
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  3. DUNE-T

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    AMEN !!!!!!
     
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  6. rollin coal

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    Buddy of mine passed a load to me this afternoon. First real prospect in 3 days. He didn't want to mess with it. Texted me what he bid it for, a 420 mile run, and told me have at it when they call. Guy calls and tells me the same thing he told my buddy. Basically we were $375 higher than what the broker wanted to pay. Broker was at $1,575 authorized to pay right then.

    He said he would have to get authorization for my rate and would call me back. When he called back he booked a truck on it for $800. This was a time critical load, today on a Friday afternoon this call came in. And it was less than 12 hours away to loading time which was 3am in the morning and drive straight thru. So apparently he called around on another posted truck asking a driver what they needed. And some idiot left $775 of what the broker was authorized to pay on the table. I bet that broker is still laughing his ### off.

    And I can promise you the broker was not "giving everything he had in it" @ $1,575 he would have made out handsomely himself. It's really bad out here. My point is not to whine about this. It's to show what absolute frikken morons are booking freight out here. Last year what we bid on it today would have been a bargain. It was actually a bargain today imo.

    Some people really just don't know what the **** they are doing and have no business booking loads. I mean it is one thing to get beat out $50 or $100. This carrier booked for good old $2 a mile on an obvious money load. I just shake my head what can you say. And please no-one tell me maybe they have a lower operating cost and can. That's the most idiotic cop out I ever see. This was a critical load and the customer paid good money to move it. Yet somebody comes along and treats it like a load of bricks. Lol.

    Some people just are worth nothing and put no value on what they do. Who goes and picks up at 3am then drives straight through 420 miles nonstop for $2 a mile? What are you thinking??? Hahaha!! Even in a bad market there are times when you can command. But not if you are too stupid to know it.
     
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  7. Scott72

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    So using this approach you might have to run 15K miles a month to reach your revenue goal because you don't care about your rate per mile, but I could run 10K miles for the same revenue because I do care. That's a lot of extra miles on the hub over the course of a year because you don't want to care about your rate for all miles. Obviously we all have our own ways of running things, and I've even used your approach a few times, but soon realized I was running way more miles than normal because all the deadhead and running around was adding up in more time, miles on the truck, pm's, wear and tear, etc.
     
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  9. rollin coal

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    Anything is possible. As fast as loads fly off the boards and as cheap as they try to get you to book them so they can "cancel" the other truck for $50 I don't doubt it moved for nothing. You have to understand that normally for the last few months from south to north is always a cheap move.

    Also there's several brokers I work with that will tell me what something I bid on booked for, these guys know me and my rates and that they don't ever budge down, and I have seen some amazingly low priced moves at off hours. This broker wasn't a regular though so he may have been playing me but it doesn't matter. Next time up is a whole new scenario and he either pays or doesn't same as this scenario.
     
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  10. Flipflops

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    Well that's the thing. This year I have put about 98k on my truck.. Been home average of 2 weeks a month continuously. I ran really hard earlier this year in winter weather. From January until May I ran about 3,500-4,000 a week. But 80% were high paying loads at atleast 2.80 a mile (empty/loaded).. My gross so far is over 210k for sure.

    A week ago, I took $1600 dry freight from Chicago to tennesee. It was about 640 miles. 30k on the weight. Can deliver whenever. I delivered straight through. Out of tennesee I found junk. So i deadheaded 550 miles or so to Chicago area again, picked up $1750 to pittsburgh,pa, delivered next day.. It was like 480 miles or some crap, not sure exact miles. Came back with $900 out of pitstsburgh area. I spent about $600 on fuel. Tolls were like $200. Overall I was left with about $2300 after all my expenses(including office and percentage I take for my company). Took me 4 easy days. Lower than my typically goal of min $800 profit a day.. But in these conditions I'm grateful compared to making $2100 a month.
     
  11. jstephens

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    do you run refer loads???i cant even get rates no where close to that
     
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