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  1. Treputt

    Treputt Medium Load Member

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    The reason why the turn over is so high is that in my estimation, roughly 50% of CDL carrying "drivers" out there can barely walk and chew gum at the same time. Sure, there are plenty of professional, dedicated, knowledgeable drivers out there. But for every driver that has his/her head on straight, there's another who shouldn't be trusted to manage to wipe themselves, let alone manage running their own truck profitably. The problem that plagues JCT has more to do with the type of drivers that take on their L/P plan, than the plan itself. Sure, there are plenty of drivers who skulk away from JCT after failing miserably...but what accounts for all those who are running great miles, earning plenty of money, and paying off a truck? Blind luck? Voodoo? Donald Trump's comb-over? No, IMO it's that 50%. Plenty of drivers take on JCT's program, and fail...and I've heard their stories....no miles, no support, no help. What they're really saying is that they didn't make any money sitting on their arse half the month, while spending the rest of the month yakking with the other professionals outside of <insert random truckstop> while chain smoking and consuming 2 gallons of their favorite caffeinated beverage. Me...I prefer to keep my truck door closed, run all the miles I can get, and make at present double what I was making as a company driver.

    And yes, I drive for JCT.

    Carry on....
     
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  3. Alanp613

    Alanp613 Road Train Member

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    Well said driver
     
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  4. Alanp613

    Alanp613 Road Train Member

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    I love it when these drivers that know nothing try to put in their two cents. Being a l/p especially at jct is like you going to buy a car and use that car to make money. When the car isn't rolling, you ain't making anything and that payment still comes out. Same with an owner op that just bought a truck and had to make payments. Difference is, if you went and bought a truck and failed, you're stuck with that truck and the payments while you have no Job. At JCT, If you fail you walk away no strings attached unless you owe them money.

    like I've said many times, those first years when you're trying to pay off that truck, are the hardest years. Until that truck is paid for, it's not yours! Same with you buying a truck at the Deale. Until you have that title in your hand the truck belongs to the lien holder!

    Bigjoel - I agree that you can make more at being a company driver. But you're looking at the net, you're not taking into account that being a l/o or o/o you have fixed and variable costs. Until that truck is paid off, I agree with you that you bring home more money as a company driver sometimes, but afterwards you can double or triple that of a company driver. Also I agree most l/p programs are rip offs where you have a balloon payment after the lease. With jct,5 years and the truck is yours. It's similar to you going to a dealer getting a truck and signing a 5 year note. So I stick with my statement that a l/o is a step up from company and a step closer to become an o/o
     
  5. casc1

    casc1 Light Load Member

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    You may be right....after truck is paid off you "MAY" have a year or two of higher income than a company driver...but then guess what...all of those high paying miles you just ran catch up with you......and low and behold...it's time to replace the truck.....back to poverty I guess!!!!
     
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  6. drvrtech77

    drvrtech77 Road Train Member

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    I beg to differ...if a company is dictating what you're going to do when you're paying for the truck... Then essentially you're a coming driver making the payments for the company.
     
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  7. Steel Tiger

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    You would be right if JCT dictated what drivers were going to do.....but they don't. We are non-forced dispatch. As far as the truck payments go, if you lease or finance from any where in the world, you are scheduled to make a payment according to the time table that financial institution has set for you. At JCT, we pay every settlement. In addition, I CAN DECIDE HOW MUCH OR HOW LITTLE OF A TRUCK PAYMENT I WANT TO MAKE!!!! Can you do that with any other company or any bank? I would bet anything the answer would be "NO."

    So, we decide what loads we want, we can control the amount of money we put towards the truck payments.......how is that exactly like a company driver???? I'd love to hear you explain that one.
     
  8. Alanp613

    Alanp613 Road Train Member

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    Look if all you got is negative attitude to everything , I can tell you right now nothing you do would be successful.
     
  9. Milkman719

    Milkman719 Medium Load Member

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    These post sure are good reads! Im wondering do they govern there trucks? I know its wise to stay at or under 65 to get great fuel mileage but its nice to get around a slower vehicles. also is it better to do a straight lease and not a lease purchase? Lease purchase sounds like you pay more each month then when its done you might own it but its ready to be traded in.
     
  10. Trafficcontrolxl

    Trafficcontrolxl Medium Load Member

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    The truck are governed at 68 and as for which is better well that depends on many things . No 2 programs are identical. If you take care of your truck it can still be a valuable asset after it is paid off. There are straight leases out there where you would pay less for your truck payment, many of. Those companies don't cover many of the other costs associated with this business like Jct does such as road tax, scales, reefer fuel, lumpers and tolls. So in the end your out of pocket cost becomes nearly identical with little to show for the effort at the end of your contract.
     
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  11. wonderdog24

    wonderdog24 Medium Load Member

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    15-25 people a week at orientation tells a different story of a lot more than a 50% fail rate..... 750-1250 people a year going thru orientation for 850 truck fleet isn't something to be proud of.... That being said It can be done if you dedicate yourself to it... Just like anything else... Manage your money/time wisely n you are almost guaranteed success.....
     
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