Rock in the stream: the Safety Dept. lied to you!

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Hammer166, Nov 15, 2022.

  1. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Nothing in that law, or the other you posted allows speeding.
    You must be going faster than other traffic, and you can't imped traffic. That doesn't translate to it being legal to speed in the left hand lane though.
     
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  3. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    I'm not going to argue what is or isn't better, to speed or not in the left hand lane as that's not the question.

    The question is @gentleroger claims it's legal to speed in the left hand lane. He has yet to show a single law where that's true though.
     
  4. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    Read closer.
     
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  5. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    I will give you this, you are very good at reading what is isn't there. Mind showing the exact wording that allows one to speed?
     
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    Jubal Early Times Road Train Member

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    And to you!
     
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    Back at you and same to all you guys/gals stuck out there during the holiday.
     
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  9. TexasRiverRat

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    The Texas CDL exam has a question that deals with this. (And I know Texas doesn't represent the entire nation) The question is multiple choice, and it asks "when is it legal to travel faster than the posted speed limit?" One choice was, "only when passing" but the correct answer was "never"

    Those quotations are used loosely, because I can't remember the exact verbage, but the intent of the message does not change.

    If the posted speed was allowed to be legally exceeded, in my mind, the word "limit" would not be added to the sign. The simple addition of that one word pretty much tells me all I need to know.

    Of course, I realize that most people in the hammer lane are speeding, and out of courtesy I don't drive in that lane unless I'm willing to roll with them. But I don't believe there's any chance that you could be ticketed for observing posted speed limit signs.
     
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  10. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    Y'all are pulling taffy over nothing.

    There are two laws, one of which sets the stored limit, the other limiting left lane usage. The move right laws don't say that it's okay to speed, they merely say that you must move if you're moving slower than traffic. It's an implicit acknowledgement that traffic often moves faster than the posted speed, and that even a car running the legal limit may be impeding the flow of traffic.

    The science of setting speed limits involves measuring the natural speed of traffic, and then using a set percentile point to set the speed limit. (IIRC, it's 85th percentile, but I didn't go back to find it.) The implication of that is that some percentage of traffic will be exceeding the speed limit on any road that has its limit set using the natural speed method. And therefore the self-righteous self-proclaimed traffic monitor is impeding traffic flow by insisting on running the limit in the fast lane. BTW, I believe some states have codified the natural speed limit method, and require their highway department to use it any time they wish to change the speed limit on a stretch of road.
     
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  11. TexasRiverRat

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    You quoted something I said, dismissed it as "pulling taffy" and then went on to basically agree with my quoted post.
     
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