schneider shifting practices

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  1. JoeyJunk

    JoeyJunk Road Train Member

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    All the mega carrier I worked for required you to double clutch. Most instructors gave that warning before you took the road test.
     
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    exactly

    it amazes me to hear drivers repeat the same nonsense that the safety folks say, as if drivers are too dumb to understand what they do for a living
     
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    i would say floating is about coordination, you can easily force gears when you double clutch because you have created that gap needed for the gears to mesh

    but to float...............ah to float is a work of art
     
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    Totally know what you mean tallman, this is how i was taught over 8 years ago and i have about 6 seasons of ag in, so floating is second nature to me. it's just that when i've done it this way my whole life, and now i'm told to do it differently, now it feels like i back in preschool instead of college. how is knight to work for? i'd hate to jump ship, but if schneider doesn't pass me on the final test, due to the whole floating vs double clutching thing, they may leave me no choice.
     
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    yeah they want you to double clutch all the time, is what i was told. the double clutch down shifting is the hardest part of it for me as well.
     
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    totally agree with you ezx 1100, double clutching to me seems like a waste on the clutch, fuel, and seems like it takes longer. Now it's to get these other corporate dummies to see it that way, that seems to be the problem. I mean I understand that they may be using the clutch as a fail-safe to protect the tranny, lesser of two evils they problebly think, but aren't we supposed to be "professionals", if one can't float, especially the new trucks, myself i learned on a 87 mack daycab how to float, should one be able to drive and call themselves "professional"? just a side thought for corporate, and of course my opinon.
     
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    Well, i'm set to start orientation in Green Bay on the 11th, this will be interesting, lol
     
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    barchetta just missing you by a week, i whent to green bay just this last week for my first week of orientation. if you want name of the awesome instructors that i had, as well as the name of the personal instructor that helped me so much, pm me or my e-mail is jeremyrafferty99@msn.com. tell your instructors that jeremy says hi. best of luck to ya, and keep er safe.
     
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    I float the gears, my trainer at Stevens years ago wouldn't graduate me until I learned.
     
  10. Tonythetruckerdude

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    Floating is fine...but all semi drivers should know how to double clutch....just like all kids that take drivers ed. in public schools should learn how to drive a standard transmission, and change a flat tire on their own. Double clutching ain't rocket science, to the OP ask your instructor to give you some help, that what he is there for to train you.You new guys need to have an open mind about this subject, mainly because double clutching allows you to be able to make a clean and more positive up-shift and a smoother down-shift....wait til the roads get slick and you miss a gear floating......double clutching also takes most of the shock out of the drive-line when shifting , up or down. razor ripper you might take the advice that your signature line gives...with your time in AG you shouldn't have any trouble getting the hang of it quickly. Good Luck