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Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by Gin86, Mar 6, 2018.

  1. jammer910Z

    jammer910Z Road Train Member

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    Are you referencing the "pain" in your left leg from repetitive clutch use?

    If your foot rests under the clutch it appears you have enough reach for proper depression.

    Perhaps I'm reading it incorrectly.

    If it is just the wear and tear of left leg use that you speak of... you'll get used to that quickly.
    Sitting in traffic at 5pm on an L.A. freeway will build up those quads.

    It will also teach you the importance of "floating gears".
    They won't let you do this in school.. but in the real world it's an art form that won't hurt equipment if done correctly.

    There are drivers shorter than 5'1" out here.. so if they can do it so can you.

    Try telescoping the steering wheel in as far as you can.
    Adjust your ride height.
    If all else fails.. try the pillow.
    Idk how a DMV examiner would look at that, though.
    Kinda like tying a 4x4 block to your left foot.
     
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  3. Gin86

    Gin86 Light Load Member

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    No, not so much from clutch use. It's the fact that I have to pick my leg up to go over the clutch to use it (from behind the clutch). You taller people are able to have your foot resting on the floor in front of the clutch, so it's just simply sliding your leg/foot frontwards to use the clutch. I have no issue reaching the brake and accelerator properly, just the clutch. And like you said, I also am wondering what the DOT officer would think about pillow use for assistance.
     
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  4. Justrucking2

    Justrucking2 Road Train Member

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    Try a pillow like your instructor said, it will work. I rode with one, a seat cushion I picked up at Walmart, one you would put on a kitchen chair. I had to use one when my seat back broke! I thought I would swap seats, well that one was broke! I rode like that for over a year until I found a new set of OEM takeout seats for $200... Long story, EPA truck and emissions did not allow me to run out and just buy a seat.
     
  5. Gin86

    Gin86 Light Load Member

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    Before the pillow, was your left foot sitting on the floor under and/or behind the clutch? My thing is, when it comes time to shifting I don't have anywhere to put that foot in between gears because my chair is so far up. I really don't want to have to hold my leg up in the air the whole time I'm shifting in order to get my foot there quick enough.
     
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    Justrucking2 Road Train Member

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    I don't use the clutch, other than for starting out. But I would think that the pillow would give you a little bit more room to scoot back from the wheel, as the seat bottom is not going to be right up there with you behind your knees along with lowering the seat right to the floor, that may help too, seat height.
     
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  7. Gin86

    Gin86 Light Load Member

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    I'll try that. But of course I forgot to bring a pillow this morning -___-
     
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  8. jammer910Z

    jammer910Z Road Train Member

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    Once you get on your own and away from instructors and trainers whoms job it is to have you do it by the book you'll be able to learn to float them and it won't be an issue any longer.
    Clutch only to start and stop.. occasional use in a pinch.

    It's all about knowing your engine, it's shift points in the tranny, and the sweet spots.
    That clutch is there for looks when you know what you're doing.
    At the correct RPM the gear slips in or out perfectly with zero clutch.

    Perhaps you'll get a good trainer that isn't so anal and they teach you to do this.

    You'll do just fine !!
     
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  9. Gin86

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    That's the plan! I am going to Schneider, so hopefully I'll have a high chance of getting an auto. A recruiter came by two days ago and she said you can ask for manual or auto and they would try their best. I keep telling myself I just need to pass school and things will fall into place to make life a tad bit easier.

    The instructor said we might go driving today, if not then tomorrow. I am so nervous with my height and also learning to double clutch.
     
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  10. Gin86

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    Well I'd say today was fairly productive. We went driving on the road today, and what a learning experience that was. I caught on fairly easily, but for some reason kept having issues with getting into 4th. I'm not really sure why lol. Double clutching isn't as bad as I thought it would be, but it's still alot going on. That was mostly to learn the gears and get a better feel for the truck, and keeping the trailer in your lane around curves.

    The second half of the day was continuing offset backing. I think we'll learn 90° backing Monday. On this, some tries I do great, and other times I screw my self up. Once I'm to the point of where I can't see squat in my left mirror other than the corner of the trailer I freak out and don't know where to go.

    In other news, the instructors moved me and the other girl to the offset and 90° backing pads a day sooner than the rest of our group and were told by one that he's been eyeing us on the straight backing pad and has been impressed to see us catch on so quick. We also found out that an instructor told the other guys that they haven't had females like us two in a long time that are this quick to learn, and are committed to learning.
     
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  11. Jwhis

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    I’m still in school maybe a bit ahead of where you are. Straight backing us the foundation of all the backings. Get that tight and the others will come easier imo.

    Offset (sight side): Pull up to cone. With foot still on brake, crank wheel all the way left. Ride the clutch look out your passenger side convex, when you see the bottom of the V in the middle of the landing gear crank wheel all the way the other way. As the cab comes lined up with the trailer you can stop and take a gander on your setup if need be pull up etc. otherwise stick your head out the window and direct it in the box.

    The slower you back the more effect the adjustments you make will have and the less likely you are to undershoot it and run over the inside cone with that trailer wheel.

    Personally I tend to keep it real slow setting up the offsets. The 90-degrees I just let off the clutch completely and roll it all the way in without slowing down. I find it easier that way to gauge the “closing rate” on the arc as it approaches the box.
     
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