Series 60 Detroit

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  1. MAG

    MAG Bobtail Member

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    l am looking at a 1993 KW with a Series 60 engine and have no experiance with them. Can any one tell me what to watch out for. The truck has a little over 200,000 miles on it.
     
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    It's old and has an ECM, lots of problems possible with corrosion in the connections. especially with the way the coatings deteriorate.

    When was it last run?
     
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  4. MAG

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    Thanks for your reply. I believe it was being run until until last November. I should hear from them tomorrow. I know the truck is old but the milage is low if the information I was given is accurate.
     
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    Have someone look on the ECM and see if it is a DDEC I, DDEC II, or DDEC III.

    DDEC III is the preferred controls of those three. That truck would be just around the changeover time from II to III.
     
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  6. Working Class Patriot

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    Series 60 are a very easy rebuild and the cheapest of the three to have it done.
     
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  7. Working Class Patriot

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    How does a '93 have only 200K on it?
    Was it used for OTR?
    Are you sure it isn't 1.2M?
    Check the hot side of the engine and see if there is a NOx tag. That will tell you if it has been rebuilt.
    Ask for a printout of Mait records, have an oil sample done (have oil samples from the tranny, and the rear ends as well), and have it run on a dyno as well.

    Do you have a mech who is familiar with Detroits and one who you can trust?
     
  8. MAG

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    Thanks for the info. The truck is out of state and I should hear from them tomorrow. This makes it difficult for me to get a mechanic to look at it. Oil samples would be possible. The 1.2 is a good point. This engine is cheaper to overhaul than a Cat or Cummins?
     
  9. Working Class Patriot

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    About half the cost depending on what needs to be done.
    It has an overhead Cam and Detroit states to replace the cam if need be.
    The Detroit injectors are cheaper than both CAT and Cummins among other parts.
    Last time I checked, an in-frame starts out at about $8K compared to the $13K I payed over two years ago for my N14.
     
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  10. MAG

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    Was this engine originally designed for the military? Did I read something about ceramic roller in the valve mechanism? Is it true that these engines can run for high miles if properly maintained? Is the DDEC the control module for the fuel injection?
     
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    The military used the old two-cycle when I was in for their Gamma-Goats.
    We had Detroits that ran multifuels-Diesel, MoGas....
    My 379 has a Series 60 GK that is rapidly approaching the 2 million mile mark.
    Any diesel engine will last if you maintain it.
    As a quick aside....when you rebuild an engine, check the rears and the tranny. They too have worked the a-z-zes off and will show signs of wear and tear.
     
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