Prefilters would be a good idea to save on air filters. The less rubbish that gets into the filters the better. Air restriction gauge would then allow you to service the filters on restriction.
The oil change intervals given out by engine manufacturers etc are for normal on road applications. For special applications, such as yours, you need to take samples at the interval you are currently using. If the oil is ok, you may be able to extend the change interval. If the oil is not ok, you will have to shorten the interval. For your application an hourmeter will be a necessity.
The engine oil sample you have already taken will give you a starting point for the engine. Get someone who really knows oils to look at the results.
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Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by durallymax, Sep 22, 2011.
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I do not know them, but I would guess they bought their trucks from Bruce in Beaver Dam. That's where I got mine and he had atleast one more for sale that was identical.
H001906 is the part #. Page 122. It was about $450, but filters add up fast once a month. I'll post pics of mine when I can dig em up. Hauling corn 24/7 right now, gotta go to bed.
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I wasn't being ignorant either. sounds like I touched a nerve sorry.
Like i explained the difference with out tractors from on road semis, is that there is the safety filter, designed specifically because of the need to clean the outer main filter element. The safety filter catches what goes through the holes that have been created from the constant cleaning.
I am looking for answers and yes I have some in my head. I know that there is no way we could ever run without cleaning an air filter on our tractors and our semis. If I went and changed the air filter on everything on our farm right now it would cost us $1,256 in filters. If we changed the harvest crew filters daily it would be around $700 per day.
Now in our semis that haul silage, the air filter is cleaned based on restriction, which during peak harvest is every day or every other day or so. After 10 cleanings, the filter is replaced. The oil from one of our semis is on its way to be analyzed, we will see what we learn.
I know enough people in the area who have "dusted" engines from poor/improper servicing. I know how important proper service is and run a very strict program on the farm. But air filters are the biggest pain about it all. A lot of tractor MFGs actually recommend soaking them in a solution, giving them a little shake, then letting them drip dry. This is supposed to keep them working longer and provide less damage versus compressed air. But I have never tried this method. Might though. Would end up just having to have two of each for the cleaning process and an extra on the shelf for replacement.
Our newest tractor has a donaldson honeycomb filter which Donaldson says to not clean, the MFG says to clean it up to 5 times. I listen to donaldson, but due to advancements in engineering, this tractors filter stays very clean even in heavy dust, its not uncommon to get a few hundred hours out of it. and its not very big.
Like I said the trucks are my biggest concern, I know what happens when people get crazy with the blow gun, but there has to be a better way to keep the cleaner in the first place. I more than likely will be installing the precleaner KWforage gave me the link to on our KW. But a system of that nature does not appear as if it would work on our freightliner FLD.
Im actually halfway tempted to redesign the air intake systems on our trucks to use the air canisters and filters off of large articulated tractors so there is both a main and safety filter. i would assume these big of filters would provide adequate flow.
We do clean our filters based on restriction for the most part, on the things that do have restriction gauges. Almost all of our stuff has the little cheapo gauges mounted in the tube, and a lot of our newer stuff has electronic monitors which are wrong half of the time.
Hourmeter is on order for the truck.
This sample is going to blackstone labs. Good?, Bad?, Cheaper places? this one was $25 for one analysis or pre-order 6 analysis for $19 each. Oil additive testing is an extra $10. Do I need that?
I found it for $380. Most likely will be installing one, unless I redesign the systems.
This filter is staying much cleaner than the old Volvo was. Still gets plugged within a couple weeks though. -
I'd almost think that the old school oil-bath air cleaner that used to be the norm would be perfect for your situation. They were heavy... the air had to travel through a large bath of oil that would trap dust, dirt & debris.
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Heres the seperator, and the part that it replaced. I would look at the chart on Donaldsons site to determine the CFM your engine requires. This one flows up to 1,400. I have a filter restriction gauge in my truck, and when I am pulling a hill with the turbo spooled up the needle does move alittle.
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Only problem that I have found is that large chaff will not eject out of the rubber valve on the bottom and will clog it up. I just pop the rubber off at the end of the day and dump it out. Surprising how much dust/chaff collects in there. I suppose I could just run without the rubber valve on also.
My original idea was to replace the whole filter assembly with a new style with a saftey filter. After speaking to Donaldson they do not make one with a small enogh diameter to fit under my hood. -
The problem is not that the filters aren't filtering the air properly. It is that the massive amounts of dust and chaff plug the up so fast. -
A dirty air filter cleans better until it gets to were you're losing power. Each time you remove filter you allow a small amount of dirt past seal. Ther are companies that clean filters and bring them to you, most also offer warranty against engine damage. You can buy several and just rotate when they clean them. They also inspect them after cleaning for holes and will tell you if they find any. I have saved about half what I would spend on new filters this way.
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I know this is an old post, but any update on how the precleaner worked?
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I run a TIM timber mulcher with a naturally aspirated 15 litre V8 Mercedes engine. We had costant problems every day with air filters blocking with bark dust. I installed a precleaner from a John Deere forage harvester(Donaldson I think),which sucks the heavy articles from the precleaner tthrough a venturi at the end of the exhaust system. We were amazed that after a week the air filter was still immaculate. Five years later,we still have the same air filter in situ,having only been blown out once.
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