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Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by bangsistro, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. bangsistro

    bangsistro Light Load Member

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    Hello guys I'm here with one concern I'm sure is not old for many of us....
    My case could be equal or similar to others here so here it goes....
    I live in California but seriously will love to move from these bankruptcy low class state...sorry al Californians in heart that's what I found here....too much trash.
    Now I am....with a little bit of savings to try to buy a truck and finally become an independent O/O instead of an slave=company driver...
    What makes my decision hard ...so hard is the CARB regulation for California requiring 2007 engines for January 2014 or what they call a PMF...Particulate Matter Filter retrofit installed on the truck which could cost from 10 to 15k this cost added to a truck make it a business minded dude to keep away of a deal like that.
    So im angry..stucked on it...I want and have the money to buy an 05 or 06 truck but can't afford an 08 and my dream to start a new business is stucked by those stupid politics in California....there's no business here and they overcharge the state with more hard to complain regulations....
    I asked some fleet owners,...O/O's they don't believe the regulation is going to be enforced....what do you people think?
    I wish to disappear California of my business map asap....they are a pain in the b....
     
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  3. tl385

    tl385 Light Load Member

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    They seem to enforce just about every other job- and opportunity-killing regulation they have... i wouldn't put it past them to enforce this one, too. If it were me, I would look into starting up in a more truck-friendly state and write off California altogether. But then, that's just me.
     
  4. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    Two things I noticed here....

    #1 You have the money for an 05 or 06.

    #2 You are leaning toward moving out of the state.

    Here's my suggestion.

    Take $5k and move. Work another year to build your nest egg back up. Buy an 06 or 07. And let Cali worry about their own ####.

    In my area, you could take up to 3 months to find work (with that 5k). If your debt load wasn't too high.

    You'd be pleasantly surprised at how far a dollar will go, when you're not taxed to death.
     
  5. azandy

    azandy Bobtail Member

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    After Cali eliminates half of America from hauling in their state, freight rates should at least go up there. Trucks that do go there will at least be able to put DPF on their old trucks or buy new ones in compliance. So in the end, the shipper pays more, then the products will cost more to the consumer. So now residents of Cali will pay more for everything trucked into their state. One big happy circle.
     
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  6. southerndude

    southerndude Light Load Member

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    I dont know about that azandy. Even though I am only a wannabe right now.. I have been doing extensive research and the more I learn about this industry the more I find out that if there is an area that money needs to be extracted from in order to make "the load deliver", it will be from the truck driver. Wages have dropped for the driver and yet shipping costs have remained the same from what I have learned. Why? Money needed to come from somewhere. Hey! Why not take it from the driver! He (or she) doesn't really matter afterall!

    Just my 2.5 cents worth.
     
  7. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    Another OVER paid driver I see.

    They're coming for your 2.5 cents next week. LOL
     
  8. bangsistro

    bangsistro Light Load Member

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    Completely agree... I was stocked last month in Michigan...at truck stop I found a little pa and ma company soliciting for drivers... I know it wouldn't be hard for me to relocate myself and I'm eager to do it not asap but really thinking on to make the move of my life if possible. I being in Mississippi before....the beautiful is called ha? It is...for living honestly I prefer northern states. But hope more people join to this matter I think that we all should be concerned the world is round...isolate California couldn't be the whole solution but really find the way to show them how wrong they are if they are stubborn and enforce that law on a critical economy.....politics are blind here!!!! LETS VOTE TODAY!!!
     
  9. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    If a dog bites on me, every time I walk near it.

    Am I isolating it by refusing to go near it?

    Or is the dog isolating itself?

    CARB --- The right arm of the American Socialist Movement.

    Trick question......

    Historically, dope smoking hippies were flower children of the 60's and early 70's.

    Will they eventually grow up, or die of old age first????
     
  10. tl385

    tl385 Light Load Member

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    If you prefer northern states, Michigan would be one of them to avoid unless you stay south of I-96. Reason being similar to living in Florida south of I-10 -- fewer opportunities due to distance from freight lanes. Of course, as an O/O, companies would still take you, knowing that you're paying for your own fuel, but the further you are from the freight lanes, the more empty miles you can expect to eat when it comes time to go home.

    Look at some of the hiring maps for different companies when you're looking for a place to move to. Companies hire their company drivers from those areas because it's closer to where they haul and they can get you home easier. Somewhere close to several terminals or several major manufacturers would be great. Those would be the areas best to move to IMO. Especially anywhere along I-80 east of Des Moines, or near the toll roads of Indiana or Ohio. Along I-40 would be best in my opinion. I-35 south of Kansas City isn't too bad. Even is home time isn't a big deal to you, you'll still have more opportunities near the big lanes.

    I live 27 miles west of I-35 in Texas, and have a lot of companies to choose from because of my proximity to one of the busiest freight lanes (the road to Laredo).
     
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