Shippers Now Are Protesting HOS change

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Cowpie1, Aug 3, 2012.

  1. lilrobby

    lilrobby Light Load Member

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    heres my .02. seems to me that the trucking companies should get together whether it be thru lobbyists or just thru lawyers and charge the shippers/receivers for holding up their drivers longer than 2 hours.to me, that is the biggest problem in the industry is holding up drivers burning up our hours so we feel we have to burn up our hours getting to our destination. you can charge a company money the question is are they going to pay it? that is where the govt comes in. they also need to be in play here to fine these companies whenever they hold a truck more that two hours unless they have a legitmate reason not to just hold the driver up.
     
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  3. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Anything that is going to cut back the amount the driver makes, the shippers will start to have to pay more. If drivers make less and less then many will simply not drive truck anymore, it won't make sense for zero money. By driver's falsifying logs, saying they were at a shipper for 1 hour instead of 5, that driver generally doesn't get paid for that. Nobody works for free. This time will have to be compensated one way or another or it will fall apart. Frankly, I kind of hope it does. (For a few days or a week)
     
  4. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    if a driver is not loading or unloading or otherwise handling the freight. It's a sealed load and the shipper put the seal on it and the consignee cut the seal,


    It SHOULDN'T take but 1/2 hour to get the product OFF the truck. They can sort it on the dock after the truck is released. Especially since he didn't handle the product.
     
  5. ghettochild

    ghettochild Medium Load Member

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  6. lilrobby

    lilrobby Light Load Member

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    thats what the govt needs to take a long hard look at.
     
  7. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    The government looks at who butters their bread . It sure isn't drivers . ATA doesn't want the government involved in detention pay . Why ? Because carriers are probably getting it but not passing any on to drivers .
    http://www.ttnews.com/articles/printopt.aspx?storyid=26767

     
  8. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    imagine that.....
     
  9. ironpony

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    My carrier passes all detention payments on to me as soon as they are received. It can amount to quite a bit. As far as the government getting involved in detention is concerned, they should keep the heck out of it.

    The government got involved in hours of service to protect the drivers from evil carriers. Anybody want more HOS rules?

    The government got involved in the medical condition of drivers to keep the public safe. Got CPAP?

    The government decided all drivers are liars. Got elogs?

    And y'all want those anal retentive jerks getting into detention? I don't think so.
     
  10. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    The government, or even lawyers are not needed. Just the guts to bill the shipper/receiver for the detention and the willingness to take each situation to small claims court, where lawyers are not allowed, for failure to pay. It is going to be darn difficult for a shipper/receiver to argue before a small claims court judge that they have the right to hold a truck and driver as long as they want without just compensation. And the costs to do this would also be part of the claim. I realize this can be a hassle, but it would not take hundreds of cases of this to get the point across and essentially force a change. Only a handful of these small claims procedures will provide the foundation for larger grievances that could be handled by attorneys thru simple paper filing, and most would be settled outright to avoid litigation. Let the market do the changing.

    But as with most things, many are not willing to take up that challenge. It is virtually impossible to get everyone on the same sheet of music in something like this.
     
  11. pete1

    pete1 Heavy Load Member

    This detention issue is the biggest problem for all of us.
    First of all, we usually don't get paid for our time when we get stuck.
    We should get hourly pay from the moment we show up at a place till the moment we leave.
    Secondly, all of the delays we encounter at shippers and recievers ARE THE REASON THAT PEOPLE LIE ON THEIR LOGS.
    Simple as that; if you aren't running behind because you got stuck somewhere, or you can't make it to a safe place to park because you are out of hours due to getting stuck loading or unloading, what are ya gonna do????
     
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