Should rates be public?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Flatbed_reefer_madness, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. Humblepie

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    So that makes you an expert on how to find customers? I did it twice it worked once, but then it didn’t?
     
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  3. Gdog66223

    Gdog66223 Road Train Member

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    Hey I tried it, someone under bidded me... so I move on... I get good rates with Landstar actually and were talkin $3 a mile rates... I get $3 a mile with Werner both ways, $3.50 a mile with Landstar on one of their food accounts.... so I really dont need customers...
     
  4. Humblepie

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    Then don’t tell people how easy it is and how to go about doing something you have never done yourself. You can’t guarantee he’ll walk out with a contract. You weren’t able to.
     
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  5. stayinback

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    Interstate commerce commission- No FMCSA back then.

    Im 1 of the few that think the Regulated arteries of transportation, Kept things "Clean" and Organized beautifully- I Started after deregulation- But Studied it- And Understood the Bidding of Lanes and the Few carriers that got them.

    A Deregulated Market is for The Strong and Smart only.Even so it can be a struggle.

    Weak individuals with no business/negotiating skills get washed out.

    Sorry,Im a fan of Brotherhood and NOT Every man for themselves....And Deregulation opened up the floodgates to every Tom,Dick and Harry to Twist the Freight game into a Frenzy.
     
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  6. Tombstone69

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    It's always been cutthroat,there's always someone that will do it cheaper,but will they do it better.I don't think it would make much difference,that's the whole concept of free enterprise.Every Driver dreams of getting together and organizing,it will never happen,you can get 2 Drivers in a room and they can't agree on anything, let alone frieght rates, and letting the government in, they just follow the money and do what benefits them.
     
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  7. KB3MMX

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    Before deregulation , Rates were required to be published... It kept the throat cutting down...minus the wildcatters lol.

    Now you have tools like DAT that can give you market averages for short or long term in a specific Lane based on payout history.

    The DAT 15 day average is a very useful tool among others to gauge a lane and a good or bad market....

    If you run produce, learn to use the USDA reports , etc to know the market before negotiation.

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  8. wore out

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    No they should not. You think a 1000 people a week are applying for authority now? Make the rates public
     
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  9. lester

    lester Midwest's #1 Feed Hauler

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    If the rates are public it would just make it that much easier for the next guy to say he can do it a penny cheaper
     
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  10. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    Lol there you go, OP. This is slick a public admission on a rate. Now you should try Landstar or Werner. If one does it, we all can right?
     
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  11. Ridgeline

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    OK OK ... I made a mistake.

    BUT I disagree with you on a deregulated market for the strong, it isn't today.

    TOO many owners run so thin of margins and have poor revenue that they undercut rates to get the work.

    Many of them hold on to their existence, screw drivers over and then take the money and run.

    I would like to see the brotherhood return as it was in the 60's, but just getting people on board to tighten up the licensing to the point that it does expect to have more than "is a wheel ... round, square, triangle" type questions on the test is hard enough, let alone start holding other drivers accountable for bad behavior is impossible.
     
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