Smoking Cummins 855

Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by Working2party, Feb 10, 2018.

  1. Oldironfan

    Oldironfan Road Train Member

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    The 444 cumins is a special type of cummins many guys hate them. You need a guy who know the 444 step timing pump secrets. They like to blow apart if not tuned correctly every 400,000 or so miles.
     
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  3. Oldironfan

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    But they stop smoking when warm driving on road at speed. If tuned fairly accurate.
     
  4. Working2party

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    So here’s what I’ve learned in the last 5 months, right or wrong let me know this may be incorrect, much of it came from the WWW; I’m working on a Cummins 855 NTC 444 CPL1210. Factory rating of 444hp at 2100 rpm, the 444 was given a compression 14:1 ratio instead of the 17:1 ratio of its predecessors so the Turbo could pack more air in it. The STC is a system to adavance the injection timing to reduce smoke at idle and low to no loads, this is controlled by the pump outlet pressure. The PT fuel system works by adjusting the fuel pressure from the dampened gear pump pressure, unreturned pressure from the governor and boost (or ATC) valve. All this feeds a set of injectors that exchange pressure for volume in injection tip just before injection. Injection pressure (atomization) is created by the force of the cam shaft on the injector train. After injection fuel it’s circulated through the tip to cool the injector. The STC system advances the injection timing by adding engine into the Injector which makes it push on the injector stem sooner. The engine oil pump has 2 regulators one of which is controlled by the oil viscosity valve , so that it adds fuel pressure for the STC system help with cold start smoking. ... that may be it..
     
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  5. Oldironfan

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    Sounds right.
    Search building a high performance Cummins engine. By Bruce Malonson from Pittsburg Power. It's a long pdf about Cummins 855 stuff.
     
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  6. SmokinCAT

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    The 444 was in production from the first BC4 until the end of big cam truck production, many different variations and CPL numbers.

    To the OP, how did you time it and did you reuse the old timing key to ensure you got it close to spec?

    Thing about a PT system is that a miss comes from injectors, you need to get the truck to someone that knows how to set the overhead, you need a tool to hold the STC tappet up when you set IBC, and OBC torque settings change depending on the engine.
     
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  7. SmokinCAT

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    It is also not the correct way to do things, he pushes retarded timing because he wants people pulling these engines down to 1400rpm he also pushed changing the gear pump as well, none of this is needs if a big cam is being driven right and never pulled below 1600rpm.

    He would have everyone cranking fuel pressure when a simple injector change to an increased flow injector will take stress off of the cam and make more useable power.
     
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    You can test that STC valve with regulated air, you should be able to make it shift timing.
     
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  9. Oldironfan

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    Do you know 855 engines? I do not except for what I've read.
     
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    When you put the engine together after cam change did you time accessory drive with the cam?
     
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  11. SmokinCAT

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    Yes, I help many people on a regular basis with their 855s.

    This is my 855, the injectors in it flow over 3 times as much as a stock 400 injector. I built and speced this engine myself. [​IMG]
     
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