Solutions for Tight Parking Lot Corners

Discussion in 'Questions To Truckers From The General Public' started by richcomo, Oct 19, 2022.

  1. richcomo

    richcomo Bobtail Member

    Oct 19, 2022
    Any thoughts on good design or retrofit solutions you've seen at tight corners, particularly entering and inside parking lots?

    I'm looking for solutions that respect a driver's need to get to the destination and the property owner's need to control traffic.

    As a property manager, I have some control over repairs and retrofits which could improve the situation.
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  3. olddog_newtricks

    olddog_newtricks Medium Load Member

    Jun 3, 2018
    I would recommend getting rid of the shrubs grass and curbs all together. Just pave it over perfectly flat and call it good.
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  4. Studebaker Hawk

    Studebaker Hawk Road Train Member

    Oct 18, 2010
    NW Indiana
    It is impossible to attain both goals at the same time.
    Any landscape architect can guide you, but as soon as you mix 2 completely different types of traffic in the same space, conflicts are going to occur.
    Open the driveways enough for trucks and cars are going to zoom in and out.
    Close them up to slow the cars and the trucks are just going to tear it up as you have seen.
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  5. richcomo

    richcomo Bobtail Member

    Oct 19, 2022
    I've been looking at transversable curbs and truck aprons like on mini-roundabouts and some right turns.
    The hope would be that the transversable curb is high enough that the average car driver wants to avoid while small enough that low speed truck traffic rolls right over. Because it is built for the load, the truck apron protects from ruts and crushed sidewalks.
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  6. rch10007

    rch10007 Medium Load Member

    May 26, 2007
    Madison, AL
    Put up a camera to collect photo evidence of a driver destroying your property.

    Send photo evidence to the carrier and request to be made whole by paying for the cost to return your property back to its original state.

    Put a 30 day time limit to respond in kind.

    If no response, provide your lawyer with the photos and your attempts at communication.

    I say this because no matter how perfect you make the corner for a driver, they will just use the new “space” you created to make their turn tighter and still run over whatever is there. The problem isn’t the design, it’s the carrier. Request that the one who does the damage be the one to pay to fix it.
  7. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

    Jun 1, 2010
    This is what I would have suggested.
  8. Lexuslane

    Lexuslane Medium Load Member

    Oct 22, 2021

    I’d copy the low curb
    I dunno what the height of the one in the picture is but I’d say about three inches or so ?
    High enough that the car driver wants to avoid it , but low enough and rounded enough that it won’t damage truck tires

    it works for roundabouts
    They’ve started installing a lot of roundabouts where I live and it seems to work ok .

    installing irrigation back flow preventers right next to a tight turn curb is never a good idea

    however if your parking lot or driveway is just for cars and will not EVER need any large trucks, I’d design it tight with some large rocks or something that’s gonna be expensive for the trucker to run over , but at some point every parking lot needs a big truck in it to unload or whatever .

    Ive seen some parking lots with the barrier over the top , about 9 feet tall to prevent any big trucks from entering .

    and I sympathize with ya . After I stopped driving and sold my trucks , I did property management and wow, sometimes it can be a giant pain in the neck .
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2022
  9. Munch75

    Munch75 Light Load Member

    Aug 29, 2021
    Also an aside suggestion. What ever you decide, make it obvious for a driver to know the approach you want them to make with conspicuous signs stating truck entry. Too many times I have gone to places that are newly built and not viewable from maps that leave it to becoming a lottery on how to get into the place. Sometimes the sweeping arcs of the curbs are decent indicators however can be overlooked if your watching your trailer when going in in an attempt to keep from damaging people or property .
  10. LameMule

    LameMule Heavy Load Member

    Jan 19, 2020
    Put in a ditch about 4' deep with a sign that says "no parking"
    Talk to a tow company and work a deal where you get 10% of all tows from your tank trap.
  11. richcomo

    richcomo Bobtail Member

    Oct 19, 2022
    The highway exit was relocated and funnels more trucks into the route in red. The old ramp moved more traffic behind the big boxes on the blue line. Either way, that hairpin in the red line is where the bollards were knocked over and is tight right and left.

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