Some Things New Drivers Should Be Aware Of

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Tip, Oct 31, 2016.

  1. Tip

    Tip Tipster

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    If you're new and gettin' into trucking, here are the facts you'll need to be aware of right out the gate:

    1. Most outfits don't pay for line 4, on duty time. You'll need to minimize this time but at the same time make sure you're on line 4 when you're supposed to. You'll give up 9-12 free hours a week on line 4, but there's no way around it. You'll do PTIs, fueling, drop/hook, sit in line at guard shacks for free. Unless drivers got smart and go on strike, demanding to be paid for line 4 time, you'll lose at the minimum 9 hours x 58 mph or close to 600 miles a week in freebie time. Don't cut corners. There are plenty of vultures out there fronting as lawyers just waiting for you to crash so they can delve into your tattle-tale electronic logs and dig up something they can pin on you. Even if it's not your fault. You'll see their billboards out on the highway. "Truck Wreck? Call the Hammer!"

    2. Most outfits will claim they pay an amount per mile, but none of them do. They're lying to you. You'll have to give away between 2% to 10% of what you drive. If you drive 100 miles, you'll get paid from 98 miles to all the way down to 90 miles or even less. More giveaways, just like the Line 4 problem. And this is gross pay I'm talking about. I've driven 8 months for a reputable company and in that time I gave them 4100 miles for free. That's about 6200 a year. Multiply that by per-mile pay and it's a good stack.

    3. Lumpers are a scam. This game works this way: drivers are forced to pay 200 to 500 to get a wagon unloaded. This is the freight that already belongs to the docks, but the docks want to be paid to unload it. When the drivers pay lumpers to unload, the lumpers give that coin to the dock lords and the dock lords give them a pittance of 20 or 30 bucks each as actual pay to unload. The rest of the fees go into the docks' coffers. What is going on is the receiving docks force drivers to pay a rebate on those docks' freight charges. There is no such thing as a lumper fee, really. It's a forced rebate disguised as an unload fee. The drivers end up paying for these rebates in the form of lower pay.

    4. Lots of outfits are require drivers to repay sign-on bonuses if they don't complete some agreed-upon time of employment. If you get that 500-dollar sign on, you'll be expected or required to work, say, 6 months to a year or two. Be aware of this.
     
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  3. SAdriver

    SAdriver Light Load Member

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    People actually goto on duty for loading/unloading in excess? I can see 5-10 minutes then off duty for the other 1h50min (10 hours for door slammers) but the entire time? Either your company is strict beyond all reason or I have been doing it wrong for the past 2 years.
     
  4. diesel drinker

    diesel drinker Road Train Member

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    Agree with point1 but as for lumpers,drivers don't pay them.Ultimately I think brokers do.
    For all I care lumpers can demand a $1 000 000 for unlaoding/stacking/counting from me and it will at most rise my eyebrow.Then I will call company and request $1 000 000 EFS check.
    I never paid lumpers with my own money.
     
  5. gntorres61

    gntorres61 Road Train Member

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    Correct, if you are a company driver, NOT an owner/operator or lease operator, the company has you write out a check for the oompa loompa lumpers that they pay for.
     
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  6. dngrous_dime

    dngrous_dime Road Train Member

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    I have, on occasion, paid out of pocket, but I'm always given reimbursement on the next paycheck. I quit doing that as soon as I realized I'm not getting anything back for allowing my company to leverage my personal funds for operating costs. Working on getting Comdata enabled to pay for scales, too.
     
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  7. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    Actually we do pay for jumpers.....at the checkout....typically the shipper covers that cost&even when they don't....they add the cost into the wholesale cost of the items....plus some....so inevitably the Consumer pays all these charges
     
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  8. Suspect Zero

    Suspect Zero Road Train Member

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    For item #2 are you referring to HHG miles vs practical vs actual miles you will have to drive? Not trying to be a smart-alack, as someone just getting ready to come in shortly just looking to understand more.
     
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  9. x1Heavy

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    Try working through three entire shifts in a warehouse unloading your trailer. 24 hours straight. Loads like that learn you to dedicate and drop - hook and get away from live unloading.

    Just work your max 14 and then just try to hit your sleeper for your rest leaving 2/3 of the stuff still inside your trailer.... you won't have a job anymore once the right people get a hold of it.
     
  10. Michael H

    Michael H Medium Load Member

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    I would like to chime in with the OP. In this business, there are a lot of freebies. For a new company driver I suggest you look at it as the trade off to the easy pay rolling straight down the highway. Yes, it sucks. But, if you learn to accept it and find ways to utilize this down time, It'll be an easier pill to swallow. For instance, get caught up on your paperwork, clean your windows and mirrors, clean your cab and sleeper. Use your "truckers broom" and blow out the dust and crap off your dash and floor. Basically, turn it around so you don't sit there stewing over the free time you're giving away.
     
  11. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Looking at pay in terms of cents per mile is too much like counting beans IMO, and down that path lies madness, especially since you don't get paid for every mile.
     
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