Sometimes you're the windshield...

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by windsmith, Jan 4, 2013.

  1. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    Sooo... Wednesday I call on a load that's picking up a reasonable distance from where I'll be empty on Friday. 260 total miles, 243 loaded miles. Not the kind of load that I usually consider, with 2 picks, hold over the weekend and one drop on Monday morning. Broker has it listed for $600.

    I call and offer what I consider to be a fair rate - roughly $2.50 per loaded mile, $100 for the extra pick, and $100 / day for weekend babysitting of the load, for a total of $900. Broker flatly refuses and we end the call.

    So this morning I'm empty at the TA in Binghamton, NY, drinking my coffee and waiting for my breakfast to show up, and what do I see on the load board? That's right, the same load posted with a new rate. $1000.00 I smile as I make my empty call on the load that I just delivered. It's the same broker that has the posted load.

    Final negotiations put us at $1150.00, with insufficient time for me to make both stops. So the first pick was removed from the load (2 pallets). While I'm on my way to the 2nd pick, the broker calls and asks if I can deliver on Saturday morning instead of Monday. Of course! So now I don't have to babysit the load over the weekend either.
     
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  3. highspeed1972

    highspeed1972 Light Load Member

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    Great job, I think more business men and women (O/O) should do the same. Let's start taking more out of the middle by not accepting less.
     
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  4. LSAgentOZR

    LSAgentOZR Road Train Member

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    The problem is you have inexperienced brokers or people who just don't care who underbid something and then can't get it moved. Most usually, it's not that there's a crap ton of money the broker is holding.
     
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  5. jbatmick

    jbatmick Road Train Member

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    That's trucking. Good job !
     
  6. jbatmick

    jbatmick Road Train Member

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    If you study supply and demand, it really makes no difference to the shipper / receiver how much the freight rate is. As long as it is the BEST rate he can find at that time. If a load pays 2,000 bucks for 200 miles,and that is the BEST [ lowest ] rate available, it will be paid if the freight is to be moved.If no one is lower, 10 bucks a mile would be the rate, and it would a bargain. Either you ship it or you don't. The person paying the freight bill is only concerned with the BEST rate he can obtain, that no one will be lower. There is no magic 2 $ a mile, or whatever to the bill payer.They could care less about the total amount, so long as it is the BEST price to be found. Shopping for the BEST [ lowest ] price to have a job performed is the foundation of supply and demand.Kind of like getting a fuel surcharge. So what if fuel goes to 5 dollars. EVERONE is paying a higher price for fuel, the fuel surcharge is paid to the trucker, and the cost is passed on down the line. , Messing with produce [ extremely time sensitive ] taught me long ago if the rate was astronomically high, it would still be paid if no one was lower. Supply and demand.
     
  7. LSAgentOZR

    LSAgentOZR Road Train Member

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    Good post!
     
  8. skateboardman

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    windsmith, when you quoted your original rate to the broker did you break it down like you did in your post?

    it may have been better to just quote 900 if ya did, some guys are just turned if they are paying for extras.

    also as it turns out for a short over the weekend load, your original quote was a bit cheap.

    this turns out to be a good thing, as ya learned how this brokers mind works
     
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  9. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    You're right, I'm glad that you noticed it was cheap. I discounted it a bit because I had a power only load and loadout back haul opportunity over the weekend that picked up 10 miles from the delivery point. I planned to drop my loaded trailer and handle the PO / loadout, then deliver the first load on Monday morning. And if I didn't make it back in time, our other truck would have been able to handle the delivery. I wanted the peace of mind of having that load booked ahead of time so that I wouldn't be pressured to find something on Friday morning.
     
  10. jbatmick

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    Now that's the way a trucker thinks. Good plan.
     
  11. rollin coal

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    That's competition I don't think $900 was all that bad of a rate although the load could turn into a turd if those delivery stops screw around wasting your day. $1,150 is even better they should have taken $900 by the horns when they had the chance. Just proves how patience pays off every time. Now a desperate driver might have thought to themselves I need that load and take it for $850 or even less. Or someone repositioning which I never understood the concept of hauling a multi-stop or if you're a flat some kind of over dimensional requiring permits for "fuel money" or worse. I would think if it was going to be cheap it would need to be as painless as possible one pick,one drop. At worst maybe heavy. Why spend extra time and money on a loser multi stop, etc, etc... ...in other words how do brokers manage to move loads like that so cheap? They don't make sense to get back in a good lane quickly, that excuse don't fly...
     
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