Stan Koch...thinking of going back.

Just hold on here! Koch is not what it seems. Since the computer loging and big brother watching. They have changed to intersmashible pro sleepers+ fraitshakers sleepers. To replace the vovo there known for. The accident policy is that no matter, the driver is never right. And you know what the weather is like in mn+wis,iowa.

 

I FEEL THE PAIN JIMBOO2846

 

All true!!!! then if you decide you want to be dedicated then they wont let you!!!!! the need otr drivers but they wont give any miles. my last set of miles for the week was 1237 miles. that wasnt cool. the internationals have paccar engines along withe the cascadia( freightliner) just madness over there. the day before i got to minneapolis, my dispatcher told me that they didn't get drivers back home if they turned they truck in and i told him that in orientation they said they did. after a number of phone calls i got my bus ticket.

 

Most of you are wrong .. KOCH IS STARTING TO PUT DRIVERS IN iNTERNATIONALS AND FREIGHTLINERS NOW AND MOST OF THEM ARE 2008 TO 2011. BUT DONT LET THAT FOOL YOU! THEY HAVE MANY PROBLEMS WITH THEM DOLPHINING AND SURGING WITH MANY PROGRAMING PROBLEMS. MINE WAS A 2011 AND CAUSED ME TO LOSE MY jOB BECAUSE OF SURGING AT LOW SPEED. WHICH CAUSED A ACCIDENT, SO WHAT EVER THERE A PROBLEM AND THEY WONT ADDRESS IT . AND JUST DONT CARE WHAT THERE DRIVERS SAY.(^^)
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I drove for this company for 8 years back in the 90's and early 2000's and it was very good place to be. If it wasn't for my own stupidity in failing a drug test for marijuana I'd probably still be there. Equipment was excellent, Volvo 660's and some of us top drivers got new ones about every 3 years or so. I averaged 150k miles a year and made good money. I'm sure things have changed since then as they always do. Oh well, I learned a lesson the hard way and have since stopped completely with the weed. Gotta grow up someday and my time was when that happened. I've since moved on and have been with another company for the last 7 years running. Not too many drivers can say they've only been with 2 companies in 15 years and if it wasn't for the 1 blunder on my part on an otherwise outstanding 21-year, 2.5+ million miles accident-free driving career I'd most likely still be with Koch.

 

I routinely ask Koch drivers how long they have been there. I haven't found anyone yet who has said they have been there for more than a few months. Regardless of what anyone on here says, as long as the company is run by the Koch family and their ilk, the company will suck eggs because the family sucks eggs. They have a dim view of truckers and their families and the don't care much to consort with the likes of truckers in their off time. In short, you work for them and you are their slave. Question them and their superior state of being and you are a loser on the short list to be let go. (You loser trucker you!-Stan Koch and Sons)

 

I worked for Best Buy from Dec 05-Oct 07 and unloaded the Koch trucks that came out of Flowermound TX. The driver that we had 99% of the time loved his job. He lease purchased his truck and said he was making great money. From what I was shown on his Qualcomm he was grossing over 244,000k a year and after he paid for fuel, insurance, tires, etc he was clearly close to 97k a year. This was when fuel started to get over 3.00 a gallon. The miles he was getting was about 3,300 miles a week and usually had two to three stops per stop. I know I am a newbie to this but that sounds good to me. Also he was home every other day and had every saturday off. The last time I talked to him was about two years ago so things may of changed but when I did talk to him last he said when I turned 23 and got my license to give him a call so when I finish school Im going to do that if hes still making that kind of money.

 

Koch started their lease offers when I left. No way I would lease on to them. Based on your numbers I would say that your driver ran 170K miles a year and made .80 cents per mile after fuel and maintenance. You could easily get over 1.20 a mile anywhere else. Koch is just a bad bet no matter which angle you look at them from. They have high turnover and they treat their drivers like worthless peons who could get more respect by being a vagrant at McDonalds.

 

Where can you get 1.20 per mile after fuel and maintainence? Netting 97000 before taxes averaging 3300 miles a week is more like .57 cpm. I'm not speaking one way or the other about Koch but you should know what your'e saying before you say it. A 1.20 a mile after fuel and maintainence is non existant lease to a carrier. It take about 95000 dollars worth of fuel to run 170000 miles.

 

I and all of my friends have had consistent 1.25/mile NET and better averages as an owner operator for over ten years now with various carriers such as Landstar, Mercer, Universal Am Can Limited, with my own authority hauling for C.H. Robinson and many more. It isn't hard. Gross over 200K a year with no more than 150K miles a year. All year, every year. It's very easy to find and do. You are dead wrong that there is no lease out there which will accomodate this income.

There are thousands of loads everyday that don't get moved and they need to be. It's the suckers who can't find the good freight out there and get taken advantage of hauling cheap freight. Stan Koch and Sons will rob you blind, spank you with a tire iron, kick you in the jock strap, and throw you to the curb. It's no joke. They suck, suck, suck. Don't just walk away from this company, RUN as fast as you can. Don't be fooled and don't be a sucker. Maintain your own equipment, get the best deals on fuel, stay legal, and take loads that you can make in plenty of time. If you can't do that, you wont make it as an owner operator for long. Even guys with thier own authority hauling brokered freight do better than 97,000 before taxes. That is a job that I would kick my broker in the shins and walk away laughing from.