STOP RUNNING CHEAP FREIGHT!!
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Bret1984, Oct 25, 2024.
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nobody has to produce a counter argument.
You’re the guy that can’t do it, telling the guys that did it & are doing it that it can’t be done. You don’t actually have a point. You’re just talking.
If capitalism sucks, and lots more government regulation work, you’re welcome to go to one of the places using that system. Best part about here- if you don’t like it, you can get out without them shooting you in the back while you’re leavingDeere hunter, broke down plumber, Lite bug and 5 others Thank this. -
Trucking in Hawaii is still regulated by the PUC. You need a sponsor and you have to go to hearings where you try and prove why you should be able to buy a truck. Companies have to submit yearly equipment rosters. And in my four months there the amount of rate cutting going on was mind blowing. Undercut to get the work and then just fudge time cards or make trucks disappear from the job so on paper it looks like you’re charging at least the minimum rate set by the PUC.
Turning off the tap of new carriers, making it more difficult to get authority than $300 and an insurance down payment, would do more to benefit the industry than asking the government how much money you should be allowed to make.
I think the government should step in and set how much restaurants can charge. I want to be able to go to a steak house in Omaha and eat for the same price that I can at a dive bar in Montana. -
Yea I admit 1000% that I've never owned a truck nor will I ever, but I don't think price fixing is the answer. That never has worked in the past with any consumer goods, I just don't see it working with trucking, either. There are just so many variables to take into consideration when setting rates.
I mean, I would think rates are higher for places nobody wants to go, freight nobody wants to haul, etc. If it's mostly flat interstate I would think its cheaper than 2 lane twisty mountain roads, etc.
But I'm just a company driver. I don't know for sure. -
When my dad passed away in 1991 South Dakota still regulated intrastate trucking. His body wasn’t even cold yet and mom was getting calls from people wanting to buy the B permit for intrastate authority in South Dakota. She got almost $15k for that little piece of paper. It used to take a little cash to be able to play truck driver.Bret1984, Deere hunter, broke down plumber and 1 other person Thank this. -
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As for the $2.50 that's an estimate I came up with based on the average fuel price, average MPG's, average maintenance costs, taxes, driver pay figuring $0.50 CPM and average insurance for a modern tractor/trailer combination. I think based on my math it provides a good baseline which is just that, a baseline. With that individual situations will vary so perhaps you might be able to squeek by on less than that or perhaps your expenses might be a bit higher meaning you might require more to stay in business but I'm sure it's probably a 20% deviation from my estimate either way. Again, if I'm wrong then educate me on why I'm wrong.
As for foreigners we're getting the vast bulk of our immigration from developing countries in people who are just grateful to be able to earn more than the $5.00 a day they were making in their home countries. It's also called mass immigration because it's on a massive scale. In fact our southern border represents the single largest land migration in the world ever recorded in human history. Now since we understand supply and demand it becomes obvious that a mass influx of cheap labor puts downward pressure on compensation. Now combine that with subsidies. Look at what these people are getting. If my rent is covered by the government for up to 2 years, I get $4,500 a month on a debit card courtesy of uncle Sam and get a tax free business for up to 10 years and really I'm just grateful to be able to earn more than what I could earn in a 3rd world country then $0.70 CPM paid out to an older used truck me and my relatives saved up for that we can all team on sounds great! Add a few hundred thousand of those trucks to the market and what happens to freight rates? -
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