Strapping a Load

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by TrooperRat, Dec 29, 2007.

  1. TrooperRat

    TrooperRat Medium Load Member

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    Pathfinder: Well, from what I was reading, it already has happened numerous times over, just that people don't want to hear about it. Personally, I don't want to do anything in, on around or while driving a truck that can potentially cause someone to be killed because of my negligence. 4-wheelers play their games allllll day long, I get REALLY sick of it sometimes, being confined to mostly city traffic, but I don't reciprocate. It's not worth it. And anyway, how much longer does it take to feed the strap all the way through versus folding it? 10 seconds? 20 seconds? It's the same thing with the rub rails - I see flatbeds pulling loads with their straps outside of the rub rail - I just think it looks unprofessional - like, gee, I couldn't take 5 more seconds to feed it through there instead of putting it on the outside of it.
    I don't understand the mentality, but I think mostly it's just pure laziness.
     
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  3. pathfinder

    pathfinder Medium Load Member

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    Mack-e6, your right, that stuff should be sent in a van, especially when I had to tarp it too! Wire, tarped! Oh well, over and done for now. Trooper, had an experience today along the lines of what we are talking about. I'm hauling skid steers, some loaded facing front to back, two loaded sideways so the wheels etc. run across the bed. I was told by the co. that strapping across each set of tires was how it was to be done. So I did. Both straps came off, one after the other in Chicago. I was lucky(checking mirrors works!) and saw the first one come free, got over before the other came all the way off. This wasn't caused by threading or not, but by a very big pot hole and the tires compressing etc.. I know it's not a perfect example, but it had a hell of an impact on me! I chained them up, then strapped(tighter) and went on thinking of the importance of doing it right! No matter what the comopany says is good enough. Believe me, I WILL be threading ALL my straps from now on! As well as addding any number of straps or chains until I'M comfortable with how it looks!
     
  4. pathfinder

    pathfinder Medium Load Member

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    Any tricks to keeping these things tight? Each time I have had to chain, one of the binders doesn't seem to stay tight. I think the chain is "twisting" the binder around a bit. I have always caught them on load checks, but I still don't like it. Hey Trooper, you would have liked how I chained this military trailer the last load. I was repowering it and the other driver hadn't left any paper work. It was sitting on an RGN when I got to the yard, chained with 1/2" chain( no, not chained properly with 4). Remembering this thread, I proceded to chain properly, 4 chains pulling crossways from each other. Then I added 2 more, one over the leaf springs pulling forward, the other over the springs pulling rear. I didn't know if the trailer was full of tools or what, so I chained as if it was. Then the other driver returns with the paper work. It weighed only 21,000lbs. He thought I was nuts! Well I made it all the way to TX, from WA, then had to re-route to SC. It never moved! And I knew it wouldn't.:biggrin_25519:
     
  5. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I don't like ratchet binders for a couple reasons.


    One is the screws get dry and stuck and the other one is they twist the chain rather than get tight.
     
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  6. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    What I would do to prevent that is to hold a smooth jaw pipe wrench on the eye bolt on the side pulling the longer length of chain while you crank the handle. Worked very well.

    As for that other guy's concern, with ratchet binders you tighten it as much as you normally would, leave the switch in the "tighten" position, and just let the handle lay against the trailer deck. This allows the ratchet gear to turn and rest against the switch, keeping it secure.
     
  7. Scarecrow03

    Scarecrow03 Road Train Member

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    Thanks for the tip, Mack. Having recently started pulling a covered wagon I've been having problems with my ratchet binders (which is all CRST Malone will allow their O/O's to use) staying tight.

    My dad had told me to keep the binder handles up so I could see if they had moved indicating a loose chain. I like your idea better.
     
  8. booley

    booley Road Train Member

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    maybe some states require that, but i can't find anything in the federal cargo securement regulations that says that....
    i've been haulin' steel for 22 years. i go around the pocket and just hook the chain to the pocket (like a retard)
    must be the police in the northeast are as retarded as me, cuz i've survived my share of inspections....

    "Proper Use of Tiedowns"
    The new regulations require each tiedown to be attached and secured in a manner that prevents it from becoming loose, unfastening, opening or releasing while the vehicle is in transit.

    where does it say anything about hooking the chain to itself?
     
  9. pcfreak

    pcfreak Heavy Load Member

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    We use the ratchet binders for holding down our wheel loader. If they get hard to turn, I just pull the ends out and smear some grease on the inside threads. And a little WD40 on the little ball for the ratcheting mechanism.

    Works great.
     
  10. TrooperRat

    TrooperRat Medium Load Member

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    Sorry - forgot I had even started this thread, I kinda took a hiatus from this forum for awhile taking care of personal things. Anyway, good on ya for getting that load chained to the nth degree. A little extra security on a load doesn't take more than a couple of extra minutes. I just go overboard, I guess - I would like to think that if my truck ever rolled - God forbid - that whatever is on it would stay on it, or at least, not end up on top of a car and killing the occupant.
     
  11. TrooperRat

    TrooperRat Medium Load Member

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    Yeah, I'm always looking at my mirrors looking at the load on the trailer. The company can say whatever they want, but they aren't going to stop you from putting on 'extra' straps or chains or both. You caught it before anything serious/bad happened, that's the important thing.
     
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