swap in a 13?

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  1. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    If I have this figured correctly, it seems like your auxiliary box setup would only add one shift to the 13 OD shift pattern. When you get to high gear with the 13 (.73:1 or whatever it is), then you shift the 2nd stick to OD (to get an additional .81:1). Did I get that right?

    Now my next question is why did you yank the 15 and put in a 13? Did the auxiliary not play nice with the deep reduction or you wanted smaller steps between the ratios without moving two sticks around all the time?

    And finally, if I understand correctly, you bought a new trans, threw half the gears away and paid $7,000 for one extra gear? That is trucker math right there LOL.

    I have an M11 Cummins that needs the same treatment. It's got a 13 + 4.33 rear and it needs all of it. But 40% of its' miles are grossing less than 45,000
     
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    I pulled a 13 double over out .62 overdrive. After I built the big motor for that truck I couldn't get it to live. There are several upgrades for them but none helped enough. It also had a high low gear and a race car reverse that I always hated. The whole reason I wanted the aux was for that one extra gear. I have run a double overdrive since I started and just didn't want to give it up. You are correct my 13 is .73 and the aux is .81. I really think the back box would be more beneficial behind a 15 as it would let you split those last 3 holes on the 15. .73 turning a .81 is a bit much, I run in .78 turning the .81 most of the time I'm just slipping along.

    Never driven it but there is a V8 CAT 359 with a 15 and a 4 at Mom and Dads gonna have to do something with one of these days. So I know the combination will jive.
     
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    rank Road Train Member

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    Why then, do I not just put that Spicer aux box with the 15 OD (.79) that I already have? Seems I could get it for $6,000 if I went the manual route. I paid some close attention to my speed (using GPS not speedo) over the last couple of days and watched my rpms.....the OD ratio I have is .79 and just swapping to a 13 or 18 (.73) isn't enough.
     
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    I would look into it for sure. The rotating mass will be a little more, but honestly we don't drive these trucks for the awesome fuel millage they get. Lol pulling my hopper mostly with the red and black truck my average so far is 5.8 mpg. Course the straight 13 is pretty sweet in these trucks as long as it's a 9 series. It gives you something to think on for sure
     
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    rank Road Train Member

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    I'm highjacking my own thread here I know but I saw a 359 Wed morning when I was getting on the 476 in Dupont, PA. We talked for a second on the radio. He said it was a 1975 that he low air leafed, Uni-built and put the cab/bunk on air.
     
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    I bet that is a little sweetheart. I think that unibilt set up is the best thing you can do for comfort. I was trying to remember what year they went to the dash of class (corvette dash) that was somewhere around 75. I think the 1100 series cab was around 73 I think.
     
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    Well Im thinking 11x24.5, 46k 4.56 Ratio, .73, .81, 1400RPM @ 65MPH? Only when Im 80K or less, when Im 110K I would keep it in direct.
     
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    The 4.56 will feel better for sure, only thing that would worry me is spinning them fast enough to create a lot more heat. But as with anything this is a give and take deal. I really don't think the heat would be that much of an issue if you don't mount wings on it every where you go
     
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    Can they get hung up if you don't make the shift right?
     
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    I have never had mine get hung up or locked in two gears, they gotta be pretty bad shape to do that. I have however got lost and had to stop and start over with the 6+4 setup
     
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