Switching cycles!

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by White93, Mar 22, 2019.

  1. White93

    White93 Bobtail Member

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    Is there a rule that prohibits a driver from switching cycles on the fly?
    I am a driver between Canada and the USA, therefore I have two cycles, primary and secondary, 70/8 and 70/7 accordingly, I just got back to Canada and getting close to my 70 hrs so I switched to the Canadian cycle 120/14, the software allowed me to changed it and it didn’t put in any kind of violation, I am safe to drive tomorrow a full day without running into any violation?
     
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  3. magoo68

    magoo68 Road Train Member

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    If you can run on recap that would be better ... As far as switching goes as long as you get 24 hours straight off before 70 hrs your good to go but remember you MUST take 72 hours off to switch back to the 70/7 70/8 cycles
     
  4. magoo68

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  5. White93

    White93 Bobtail Member

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    Yessss! Thanks, I knew that there would a catch, and I will certainly have the 72 hours off before I have to south again.
     
  6. not4hire

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    Yeah, can't switch Cycles on-the-fly. Just because your ELD allowed it, doesn't make it legal and you're the one that is ultimately responsible. It makes for a difficult calculation for the ELD and because it's used so rarely (especially by drivers who run in the US), I would expect most ELDs to just have a brain fart.

    29. CYCLE SWITCHING — OFF-DUTY TIME

    (1) No motor carrier shall request, require or allow a driver to switch and no driver shall switch from one cycle to the other without first taking the following off-duty time before beginning to drive again:
    (a) to switch from cycle 1 to cycle 2, at least 36 consecutive hours; or
    (b) to switch from cycle 2 to cycle 1, at least 72 consecutive hours.
    (2) After taking the off-duty time, the driver begins the other cycle, the accumulated hours are set back to zero and the driver’s hours begin to accumulate again.

    https://www.ccmta.ca/images/publications/pdf/NSC_2018/Standard_9_Hours_of_Service_August_2010.pdf
    Of course it also means that if you are running Cycle 2 and end up having to do a reset in the US it has to be 72 hours or you run the risk of being put OOS for 72 hours if stopped in Canada.
     
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  7. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    Dang that's confusing.
     
  8. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    That's not for me.

    Already working 70 a week and darn tooting I aint adding more than already in there. I agree it's very confusing.
     
  9. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    Not really that confusing if you take a second...

    US: two "cycles"
    • 60/7
      • Reset 34 hours
    • 70/8
      • Reset 34 hours
    Canada: two Cycles
    • 70/7
      • Reset 36 hours
    • 120/14
      • Reset 72 hours
    • All drivers must have at least 24 consecutive hours of off-duty time in the preceding 14 days. Cycle 2 is either preceding 14 days or maximum 70 hours on-duty time, whichever occurs first.
     
  10. Bean Jr.

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    But the 2 US cycles are not optional. If the company operates 7 days a week, then you must take 70/8.
     
  11. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    So in Canada they cut 20 hours from you if you run for two weeks straight?
    No recap hours there?

    And that last point for Canada can be interpreted several different ways.
     
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