The backup camera situation?

Discussion in 'Trucking Electronics, Gadgets and Software Forum' started by NewHaul2018, Feb 17, 2019.

  1. Hayfieldmn

    Hayfieldmn Light Load Member

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    My 389 has the smart nav system and there is a screen in there for camera's, so I'm guessing the wires are ran some place just have to buy the cameras and install them. But I think I'll just stick to mirrors and getting out to actually see what's around me.
     
  2. NewHaul2018

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    Your point is well taken, and I like your use of the the time traveling driver thought experiment. You are absolutely right, the fundamentals (mirror usage and getting out to look) are absolutely necessary in order to safely operate the vehicle, and I don’t advocate abandoning that practice. Your time traveler senario started me thinking what else that 1940 era driver might notice as he/she climbed into the drivers seat? Seatbelts to keep you from flying through the window in a crash. Airride seats to save your back from injury during long hauls. ABS to help stop you from entering a skid and many many more. These features were not part of the trucking industry back then but were added to trucks over time to help make them safer to operate. They’re not replacements for using your think box to avoid getting into an accident in the first place, but they do contribute to lowering your risk of injury in the case of an accident. Camera tech is no replacement for the fundamentals, but I’d argue that on that one in a million day where you’re dealing with a tight schedule, and one of your kids is home sick, and the dishwasher is on the fritz, and you look away from your mirrors just long enough to miss that kid who zoomed behind you on his skateboard and then hit a rock and fell, if a camera system could alert you to his presence and save you from backing over him, wouldn’t you use it?
     
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  3. MidWest_MacDaddy

    MidWest_MacDaddy Road Train Member

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    If not already, I bet it would not be long.

    I know you can program them to fly a certain predetermined flight pattern then return and can be trained to “follow me” wherever I go.... so either flying back to a starting point or to a homing beacon should not be too hard with the right brains behind it... (not mine, I’m just the idea guy... lol)

    I’m now envisioning having it follow my Truck through the mountains or over the George Washington Bridge... what beautiful scenes could we be documenting as we drive. (Well, one battery charge at a time... lol)
     
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  4. MidWest_MacDaddy

    MidWest_MacDaddy Road Train Member

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    Please don’t take this as preachy... I’m not and I only have a couple years of Tractor/Trailer driving under my belt, so this isn’t a “listen to me sonny”... but that will smooth out... a lot... you drive, and back, that truck as you need to... you take the time and space to do it safely too... don’t get in a rush... don’t let anyone rush you... don’t let anyone tell you how to do it, unless they are hoping out of their truck or off their dock to actually HELP YOU...

    When you rush, or let others rush you, that’s when mistakes happen... you be in control of your truck...

    And no, I’m NOT an expert backer at all... but I’ve gotten better, actually much better, after I stopped caring what others thought or said... all that matters is that I safely backed my truck...

    Can I get an Amen??? lol
     
  5. MidWest_MacDaddy

    MidWest_MacDaddy Road Train Member

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    I know you were kidding but Thank You... I really was curious what the stats were... and of course “one is too many”... but that is then balanced with the cold cost/benefit analysis to see what if anything can be done.
     
  6. MidWest_MacDaddy

    MidWest_MacDaddy Road Train Member

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    Either a Nav System or I was thinking about how one can get a Volvo with an Apple CarPlay Screen (or Android Auto) and just connecting the drone to my iPhone/iPad (or Android device) and send the video to the CarPlay screen... then one could sell it on the Car Market too.
     
  7. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    That may work in a lab, but not on the road. Hell, they can't even get trailer tails to deploy as designed when speeds top 30-35 mph (as evidenced by the number of them you see going down the road with only 1 opened up). With the rain, snow, road grime, and salt that accumulates on these trailers going down the road, you'd be lucky if the solenoid continued operating past 6 months. Tiny, intricate moving parts are not going to have the same longevity on the rear of a CMV that travels 120K miles per year as it does on a passenger car that won't see that many miles in 15 years. Couple that with the complete disregard many company drivers and yard jockeys have for trailers they don't own and don't plan to stay hooked to for very long, and the expected lifespan of those cameras and solenoids gets even shorter. Hell, how often do you see marker lights out going down the road or flat tires in a drop lot? It would be a huge waste of money and resources to install. Remember, it isn't JUST the cost of the cameras, but the hourly wage of the guy installing them and maintaining them, and the OTHER work that's stacking up because he's fiddledicking around with those cameras.
     
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  8. MidWest_MacDaddy

    MidWest_MacDaddy Road Train Member

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    But would he know how to operate the antigravity system??? That’s the real question...

    And if you go further back it time... would that Teamster (not the union guy, the real ones with the team of horses, know how to use those mirrors to back up his team to the dock???
     
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  9. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    You haven't thought it through far enough, take a look at most of the truck drivers you see, how many of them do you think are going to get out and look if they've got a camera that they think shows them everything? Tech is nothing but a headache, I wish I'd never got a smartphone and just stuck with a flip phone. All the extra computer crap on the new trucks is nothing but a headache, take a look at the mechanic forum here and read about people trying to find the source of their electrical issues. More tech on trucks is not constructive, ever.
     
  10. JoeTruck

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    I want airbags.
    For the driver, not the load.
     
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