The Hunt for an Ok Lease Program

If you do not have a valid medical illness then you should not have a service dog. People whom get their stupid pets certified should be shot. The ADA never intended it to be a way to bring Fido the stupid poorly trained mutt into the store with you.

 

Agreed. Most who do that are old ladies who can't relate to the world without Mr. Piddles riding shotgun in the purse.

But also no point in being secretive if you have one. There's only 3 medically accepted reasons, and two of them are trucking disqualifications.

 

I'm leased to SNI's Choice program currently and have been since mid-last year. It's been a really good deal for me and several others I know. They have been as straight an arrow as I've EVER seen in a trucking company. Nope, they won't lease or finance you a long nose, but they will take the truck on lease if you finance it elsewhere and bring it with you. I don't have a dog in the truck, but I've seen several folks pull into the OC's with their dogs, so I'm assuming this not to be a problem.

 

It is against the rules to have a pet on a Schneider truck, they have no pet policy. I am unsure how they got away with having it, unless they lease the truck at which point they have more rights then a company driver on what goes in it. I suppose, I have a hard time considering Schneider due to the past issues with them. Even if they would allow my service dog I now have an issue trusting them, since they lied from the get go on recruiting me. I made no secret of the dog.


And there are more then 3 reasons and for the record the ADA gives no 'accepted reasons' it simply states, and I quote: " The ADA defines a service animal as any guide dog, signal dog, or other animal individually trained to provide assistance to an individual with a disability."

"Disability is defined as "a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits a major life activity." The determination of whether any particular condition is considered a disability is made on a case by case basis. Certain specific conditions are excluded as disabilities, such as current substance abuse and visual impairment which is correctable by prescription lenses."

Therefore your post regarding what is and is not a service dog is an affront to those persons whom are legally and medically requiring one because unless you are a doctor you do not have the right to tell people what a 'acceptable disability' is in regards to a service animal. Service animals are more then guide dogs, dogs that pick things up for people whom have spine issues, or dogs that help deaf people. There are service dogs and other animals including monkeys for a whole host of other things, which with a little research you can find information for. The list includes: Seizures, Diabetes, Mobility Assistance, and Psychiatric disorders including social anxieties, ptsd, and more.

Only a doctor can honestly decide on if a Service Dog would help with a particular disability, and the ADA has historically been way to lenient on what it considers a disability. This makes it too easy for people to 'pretend' to bring their pets freely with them whom have no issues at all. Which I suppose I do not have an issue with. I do have an issue with people whom 'pretend' but do not put the time into actually training there dog so what you have is an unruly, potentially aggressive animal in an unfamiliar situation that is not trained to deal with. Simply put, all this does is turn people off to service animals and hurts everyone whom needs one.

Its almost like people going into walmart and using all the electric scooters they have there for people whom are disabled. If a perfectly healthy 20 year old jumps into one of them and starts riding around for 'fun' people think he's being an ###.

 

So I'd be paying for a truck I did not want for at least 60 days, still retarded if you ask me. The recruiter did not seem interested in selling JCT, I asked about their lease program, about the trucks available and was stated that 'the truck I would get would depend on whats available at the time'

Sorry, but paying hundreds a week for something I do not want to be in does not thrill me in the least. JCT is still on the backup burner, but there are other, more... intelligent... lease programs where they allow me to chose the truck from the get go. Hell even Werner would let me pick the truck I wanted, and I had it negotiated that the truck in question would be clean pulled off Werner 's fleet after I was approved, which basically guaranteed me the truck I want. Except they paid something like 80 cents a mile for over 1000 miles pff.

Anyway I took offense to the wording, I dont think you really put much effort in to checking out JCT, because its not my job to sell the company to me it's their job. I called, and asked many questions and the general 'feel' I got from the recruiter was that he wasn't really that wanting to do his job at the time I called. He answered my questions with a negative tone from the start, when I asked about being able to get a pete he was dismissing, stating that no one could guarentee us the truck we wanted. I asked, to make sure because I was actually taken aback by the idea that its okay to force someone to pay for a truck they do not want, if he was talking about the lease program. The answer was yes, that we would get a truck from what they had open when we went to orientation, there was no mention of any transferring later.

So yes, I did put effort, and I still think its retarded to make someone pay for a truck that is not picked by them. I think that is the ONLY lease progarm I've seen that didn't give you even a hint of what truck you might end up with, it could be ANY of the truck models they run. Like a company driver, hell Werner let me as a company driver at least pick the model.

 

Ok now I am not trying to start anything with you IROC. but going on the info you have posted about yourself and your exp as a driver...First the JCT recuiter was probably short with you because they require more exp than what you say you have.
Second and this you will come to understand when you get more exp. you dont let any company SELL you on there company they will tell you what you want to hear...JUST check the thousands of postings here....YOU need to research all the companies to find which fits you best...
third if you are not willing to give a little to get alot you will not succed in this industry... from your past postings I see you are totaly willing to give up many a good company because they dont want animals in their trucks. Hey I understand loving a pet...but when it comes down to putting food on the table, clothes on my back and roof over my families head the PET will stay at home...I hope you do not take offense to any of this I am just pointing out some real world to you... good luck in your endevours.

 

Well, I was trying to help here, but it seems as if you're someone who thinks the companies "owe" you something. The fact is, and I'm not trying to piss you off, but the fact is they owe you nothing. Work there or don't. Lease their truck or don't. It really makes no difference beyond that whether you do or don't except "they" won't be making money from you. The lease purchase is called "fleece purchase" for a reason. If you want their deal, leasing their truck, you are going to have to play by their rules. It's that simple. You want to play by your rules? Fine. Buy a truck on your own and bring it to the company you want to lease onto. That's the only way your going to get a decent rate AND the truck you want. Otherwise, there are sacrifices to make. I brought my own truck to the deal where I am for a reason. You'll have to do the same if you truly want to be leased to someone else AND play by your rules. Else, you're playing by theirs. No ifs. No ands. No buts. I'm out.

 

your best bet is to buy a truck out right. the thing about a lease is just what the word means (lease) you will never own the truck unless at the end of your lease you come up with a back end payment of 15 to 20+ grand to buy the truck out right from who ever your leasing from. and most companys will find some how to keep you from fullfilling your lease or to costly to do

 

I've been reading everything around about all the lease deals. Other than the smaller companies, of the big ones it seems only Schneider or Prime are worth a darn. The rest seem to range from terrible to terrifying.

If you find something really good, we'll all want to know!