***the Lumper Scam***

My only problem with the lunper fees, is when the comapny wants to know why it is so much and expect me to go in and find out why. My solution? I go in and explain the problem to the lumper service, request a phone number from them, and give it to the company and tell them to call them. Has worked every time so far. Wonder if they've ever called?

 

As I stated, Let the company haggle over the price! Unless I get a commission on saving them money...OMG what the heck am I thinking ROFLMAO!!!

 

A pilot is a college educated, and a skilled job. You as a truck driver are more than likely considered uneducated (I know other wise), and unskilled. Part of your job description included loading and unloading.

Mark

 

Just not part of our pay.

 

It's part of your pay, you are paid to load, drive and unload the goods. You are not paid by the mile, you are paid by the job. OTR companies don't really care about the miles you drive, all they care about is the amount they get to move the load. They only use HHG miles to figure out a standard to charge.

Mark

 

I dont think so! "CDL" DOES NOT MEAN "combination, driver/lumper"!!!
It might be the companies responsibility to unload the trailer and THEY GET PAID for it! Unless they are willing to pass 100% of the unloading/loading charges to me, I aint touching the freight! As long as they are willing to pay some un-educated and possibly illegal immigrant more than they are willing to pay me, guess who gets to unload the ####???
Furthermore, the same logic should apply to fuel surcharges and haz-mat loads too!
100% of the fuel surcharge belongs to the person who paid for the fuel! Not 1 red cent should go to a broker who didnt pay for any fuel!
Haz-mat loads pay more than a regular load but most carriers keep that extra money for themselves. Why? The driver is the one with all the extra work and headaches associated with that load! Carriers should pay the driver more for pulling haz-mat.

 

Truckerdave, why do you care if your company pays a lumper fee? It's there money and they know the game. When I drove OTR, the company always gave me a comchek for lumpers. As an O/O the cost is already in the price of the shipment. It's a little game that has been played out long before either of us could drive.

Mark

 

A game that I'm quite happy not to be involved in.

 

Actually, if I understand this "little game" correctly, then it is NOT the carrier's money, it is the shipper who pays the carrier the cost of the lumper fee. If carrier expects me or asks me to unload the freight, then I DESERVE 100% of the lumper fee! Why should they keep any of it, if I did the unloading?
Same for fuel surcharges, and ANY OTHER accessorial charges! If the driver (O/O or company) did the work, he deserves the monies paid for those items.
If you were paid a percentage of the load, aren't they required to tell you exactly what the load pays? Doesn't the driver have the legal right to examine the actual freight agreement if there was a dispute about pay?
Just asking questions, so dont get mad at me pls.

 

Truckerdave, the only drivers required by law to get full rate disclosure are O/O. O/O are putting their name and signature on a contract, they are part of the contract. Company drivers that get paid % have no legal grounds to get full rate disclosure. The company driver is not putting is name on the contract, the company driver is signing the BOL only.

Don't worry I'm angry at you........................

Mark